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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-02 03:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #3133 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3133 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Guild]


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[Harvest Moon: (More) Friends of Mineral Town]


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[Gump, from Legend]


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(Agent Carter)


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[Jeeves and Wooster]


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[Lupin III]


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[Courtney Love & Kurt Cobain]


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(SPN)


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[Kasumi Goto, Mass Effect]











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(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Well, there's something to be said about an organization that attracts people who get off on killing. It's not like we're mobilizing petting zoo employees to take out ISIS. Military NEEDS and WANTS the bloodthirsty, pissed off, self-righteous people that they can send to do the dirty work without question.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That's like saying because jihad is a concept in Islam that all of its followers are bloodthirsty killers looking to destroy infidels.

Um...no. Religious war IS a thing in Islam but it's hardly the entirety of it.

Focusing on the worst elements of something and then generalizing it to the whole are how people justify hating a group of people.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of a fail analogy. Islam as a whole is a group of people from which smaller extremist groups may form, much like America is a group of people from which smaller military groups form. These groups have their own specific rules that they follow that people in the larger surrounding groups generally do not.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Your analogy also works in the military...

"the military is a group of people from which smaller groups form" -- you know like the Army vs the Air Force vs the Navy. Or there's medics. Or special forces. Or translators. There's LOTS of ways you can subdivide the military and they often have specific rules and codes.

Again, it's like using ISIS and the actions of the September 11th terrorists to hate on Muslims.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*whoooosh*

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny how you don't see how similar you are to the people you hate, I quite agree.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't support the mission of ISIS and AQ, nor do I support those who knowingly joined up with ISIS and AQ knowing their mission. Same with the military.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Because "the military" = people who all believe exactly the same thing and want to kill Ay-rubs instead of a wide variety of people who have a huge range of beliefs and reasons for their service?

But, yes, sit there and judge the horrible military people while my friend went to Afghanistan as a medic and treated children with third degree burns because their fathers dipped them in boiling water when they wouldn't stop crying.

Indeed you are morally superior.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. they volunteered to leave the general population and join a violent service. That is exactly what is happening with ISIS too.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you daft?

You realize that NOT EVERYTHING THE MILITARY DOES IS VIOLENT.

You realize that Naval hospital ships provide disaster relief?

That one of the US Navy's biggest goals is to secure shipping lanes?

That when Russia took Crimea troops were sent to several Baltic states AT THEIR REQUEST?

The US Coast Guard?

Different pats of the US Military have different MISSIONS -- which is why I object to you characterizing EVERYONE the same way.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem to be avoiding the point that once you've joined the gang, you go where it tells you. That means when you join, you are happy being sent to be a bastard on demand. It doesn't matter that they have a PR friendly division, because even inner city gangs do nice stuff around the hood for their supporters, doesn't mean they aren't also the people that set fire to other people and are just as happy. You keep wanting to avoid that point. You join up, you are happy being part of a movement which breaks international law and kills non-combatants and participates in torture, and those medics and translators they help with that too.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Go ahead and white-out ISIS there and type in Al-Queda and you've got exactly the reasons we're now fighting ISIS. We have no business being involved in the Middle East, we have no plan for really combating ISIS properly (hint: it would need a draft to have sufficient boots on the ground to deal with it) and we will only make a temporary dent at best before our hamfisted intervention brings about something worse. That has been the entire history Middle Eastern intervention since the end of WW2. It isn't about self-defense, or even getting even for 9/11. We are now creating spawning grounds for more terrorists than we would if we stayed out. It is about nothing more than trying to look tough in front of the other nations of the world. I don't support that, and I don't support any troops who are part of that.