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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-04 06:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #3135 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3135 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a hard and fast rule, but a lot of the times I find men stick more to third person objective narration, and women lean more to third person subjective narration. So if they're spending more time describing what's going on I tend to think male, and if they're spending more time on why stuff's going on and what people think about it.

She narrowed her eyes, breath coming faster as her fists clenched hard at her sides.

vs.

She felt rage rise up like a tidal wave, overcome with the urge to feel her fist impact his face.

Happens in porn too. Women tend to write about how it feels, men tend more towards IKEA instruction-style.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Just goes to prove my thesis that Robert Jordan's understanding of women was impeccable

(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Because of every other line describing her tugging her braid?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That was the joke, yes

(the logic of the joke being that he wrote a massive 14-volume fantasy series entirely in third person subjective point of view)
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-08-04 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
interesting. i'll try to look for that next time I read stuff.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone will probably find a dozen examples where I'm very wrong, but it's something I started noticing when a post went around of "The only way to be a Good Writer is to stick to third person objective, always. Subjective is lazy and stupid because you're just telling the audience how someone feels, not showing them!" And I looked at it and went ".... but I hate objective, it's all dry and a little pretentious and cold and..... the reason most of my book shelf is made up of women authors?"

And then I started paying attention to it in more amateur work, like binging on free-for-today fantasy e-books on Amazon, and yeah it's mostly crap, but there does seem to be a preference in preferred style. And it could entirely be that dudes read mostly dude dominated genres and pick up dude writing habits, and women read women dominated genres and pick up women writing habits.

Like Harry Potter's a good example, one of the reasons (as if people need them) for the race wank is probably she barely describes people in there physically. You get all personality, no bra size.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-04 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That's interesting, I'm not sure if I've noticed that myself, but maybe there is a trend there. Or maybe that's just how people tend to stereotype between the two. I would've thought the stereotype tends to go "MORE FIGHTING SWORDS BLOOD" = man, whereas romantic storylines (not just a hot love interest girl) get interpreted as feminine.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-05 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm female, but I write like a man then. Good to know. Always trying to get more stuff in about how it feels/how they're feeling, and always failing.

Oh, well. Who cares.