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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-09 03:43 pm

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Here you go:
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Wingfic

(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
i read that, and that's why i'm asking, are there general trends and tropes for that kind of verse?

like, wingfic is any fic where characters randomly have or sprout wings? that's it? it could be any genre or storyline or reason at all? sam and dean in a fantasy fairytale land where both of them are sparkly fairies is wingfic, and bella and jacob in a dystopian post-nuclear war future who have sprouted mutant wings from their shoulders is also wingfic, so they're the same category?

that just... seems very broad, if you compare it to something like omegaverses where generally the societies and roles are pre-determined.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
In my experience, that's it. I don't think there's anything more than that. The kink is people with wings. How they get them isn't really that important.

I actually think A/B/O is oddly specific really. Most fandom kinks seem to be broader. I could be wrong though.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
idk, with "slavefic" you basically know what you're getting into. same with "post-apoc" or "bdsm universe" or "human au" or "bakery au" and a whole bunch of others i can think of. even kink tags like "noncon fic" "dubcon fic" "h/c fic" "first time fic" "spanking fic" all tell you what the most basic of basic plots is

i have nothing against wingfic tbh only remarking that it's oddly broad

(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess we're on different wavelengths then because some of those seem just as broad to me. And you do basically know what you're getting - you're getting a fic with a person having wings. If it's not your thing, then it probably won't register why that's enough.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
idk if your last bit there applies, because h/c and dubcon and slavefic and all that isn't my thing either but i know what kinds of plots and tropes to expect in a fic that's labeled with those, because those genres tend to have certain general tropes that people follow, you know?

slavefic, someone's going to be a master, someone's going to be a slave, there are probably going to be other slaves and masters and a society based on those, there's almost certainly going to be a comparison between good masters and bad ones, themes of abuse of power and struggles regarding power

- this is not my kink but i've read enough of the genre to expect these tropes that are common to it

wingfic, at least one person has wings for any matter of reason, and they don't have to be a significant part of the plot at all

wing it up everywhere idc but i don't think you can argue that it's not nebulous
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-09 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
But the wings ARE the kink, in this case.

You should compare it more to kinks - like say, a fic that has idk, spanking. You don't know anything about the fic, aside from the spanking.
It's just that wingfics aren't necessarily a sexual kink, but they can fall into any number of plots.
Unlike the things you listed, which are more tropes/plots than just kinks.
There's a reason it's sometimes called 'wingkink', I've just seen the term 'wingfic' used to specify that it doesn't have to be sexual.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
oh i agree and understand it's the sexual kink or the fiction kink

its more that i dont see "spanking fic" being used to describe a genre or group of fics, whereas i do see "wingfic" being used like that - even as one word here, "spankingfic" isn't a thing - since, you said it, it can be nonsexual while spanking as a kink is usually about the sexual kink
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-10 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, I see where you're coming from.
I guess there isn't really a logical answer to it - like another anon said, you just have to 'get' it.
I like wingfics. Sometimes I just want to read about my favorite characters having wings.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
yeah i understand :)

it was more semantic confusion than understanding confusion

"is it really this broad? i guess it is lol"

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
tw for rape fic talk?

is uppose what i'm trying to say is when i hear "rapefic" i know instantly that the focus of the fic is going to be a rape that either happens or has happened in the plot of the story - as opposed to a different fic say "post-apoc" where a rape may happen in the plot but the focus is not the rape. but you said wingfic doesn't even have to focus on the wings so it's different uses of the ___fic suffix?

i may not be explaining this too well
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I get the confusion. I hadn't really thought, up until now, how 'wingfic' is a bit of an odd category.
Maybe it's better to think of it more like a 'winged AU'? I mean, a coffeeshop AU, you don't know anything about the fic other than there will be a coffeeshop, right? Or a vampire AU, it means there will be vampires, but you don't know what the actual plot will be.
So a wingfic is basically an AU where there are wings - and they usually are kind of a Big Deal in the plot, you don't just slip them in as an aside.
But I think the term might predate when everything was ____AU, which is maybe why it's ____fic?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of those are really broad...
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-09 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's pretty broad. The only other detail that usually appears is some form of wing petting or the wings being overly sensitive, especially if the fic goes in a smutty direction.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-09 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
hrm would you say the plot usually focuses on the wings? how they got there, how they get discovered, the consequences of them being discovered... or something? would that be a general constant?
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-09 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Not necessarily... there are some fics which are about the wings showing up, and some where it's a world where everybody has wings, and some where it's unique.
I think the real constant would be that the wings generally get a lot of attention in a "oh so beautiful" kind of way. Often there is touching/preening involved, though it doesn't always go sexual.
There's no single rule about what kind of attention the wings get, but generally they're some form of important in the story.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-08-09 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It is pretty much just characters with wings, sometimes who have them in canon and sometimes who don't. And often the wings are very erogenous. I think it might come from the same place as, say, the Ferengi in Star Trek and their ears. The idea of characters having other body parts that react the same way genitals do can be a turn on.