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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-10 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3141 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean, I don't know how quickly it is.

Just speaking about these two examples and my feelings about each: WRT Draco, Harry Potter is over. We have all the evidence we'll ever have about his redeemedness or lack thereof. His story is over, unlike a living person's. WRT Vriska, I wouldn't even say she's unredeemable; I would say that I just really would not enjoy reading a story where she was redeemed because I can't stand reading about her character.

I'm also just generally uncomfortable about translating that kind of fictional judgment to reality. Just in general. Because fiction is very different from real life in terms of the relevant factors.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-08-10 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing about fictional judgement, though: I find it's often LESS, because in fiction you get to see more of a character than you might know of a person in real life. So if people judge more...I just wonder about their motivations.


I guess some characters are just "fun to hate" and that's okay, but if you get into it more realistically...that's where it can get a bit iffy for me, and make me wonder about people's r:l opinions.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, but that's something you should try to account for in real life. I mean, the fundamental attribution error is a fairly well-known thing. And you should always, always, always try to be generous in judging people for that reason.

If anything, I would say I am much less judgmental of people in real life, not more - because in real life, I always try to allow for the possibility that I don't really understand what's going on, whereas because you have more access in fiction it's easier to judge.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-11 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
That's absurd.

It's perfectly reasonable to judge fictional characters more harshly, because unlike real people, we have a window into their lives and minds. The author tells us the pertinent information, because that's part of telling a good story. We're not missing a part of the context, we're not misjudging the events, we're not looking at someone who may not be culpable for their crimes. It's not necessary to give a fictional character the benefit of the doubt, because unlike with real people, we really do have all of the facts.