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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-15 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3146 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3146 ⌋

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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-15 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was going to say this. Being a geek doesn't mean you never mess up or have wires crossed in your brain or have weird misconceptions about stuff.

I mean I love Takanori Nishikawa and I love TM Revolution and it took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize that it's the same dude.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but the problem is her pretending to have a deep interest in something she does not even have a tenuous grasp on.

Like if I said "I'm such a huge comic fan, I hope spiderman is a cameo in the next batman movie", you would call me on my bullshit and rightly so.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-08-15 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you know she's pretending? Maybe she just got tongue-tied in a public space. She's openly admitted to having issues with anxiety. I think you're projecting *waaaaaaay* too much, here.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not a slip of the tongue mistake. That really is like saying DC when you meant Marvel. That's like saying Mickey Mouse is your favourite dream works character.

Maybe if she'd only said Stooges once, I could see the "Oh she said the wrong name" but she followed it up with another one.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-08-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Really, I get tongue tied and invert the two now and then. It's all fun and game until someone gets called the dog's name.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
But that doesn't mean someone is pretending to be a super huge fan of something. Unless you can point to where she said, "I'm a super huge fan of the Stooges and know everything about them."

The context is throwing pies in people's faces. The Stooges threw pies in people faces. That's ALL you need to know about them in that conversation. You don't need to know their names or anything else, you only need to know their relation to throwing pies.

On top of that, making the leap from "she doesn't know things about the Stooges" to "SHE'S LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND IS A FAKE GEEK" is stupid. No one knows everything about everything, even geeks.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-08-15 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
And especially when you get down into the b-list and c-list for Marvel and DC there are a fair number of entirely forgettable and interchangeable characters.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-08-15 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
People link weird stuff accidentally all the time.

Plus, The Stooges were famous for pie fights/ pie in the face, and Groucho not so much, so she's *being* a Stooge by throwing a pie.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-15 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Does she present herself as specifically a huge fan of the Marx Brothers or the Three Stooges?

I mean I really don't think that one faux pas = doesn't know anything about anybody ever and is a liar about everything. I would probably look for clarification. She probably just crossed wires.

Either way, Fake Geek Girl doesn't exist so it doesn't matter.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but there's a flaw in your argument there. Of course people would say "Wow lol, you got that seriously wrong." But that doesn't mean they'd say, "I guess that means you never liked any of the things you said you like."

Like, I have legit nerdy (female) friends, who are huge Star Trek nuts and talk hours about the meta, who are scientists and spend their free time making jokey contingency plans with their colleagues in case the zombie apocalypse hits. And they still ask me whether Batman is a Marvel character.

Felicia Day wanted to give a funny answer and picked a seriously unfortunate example, but that doesn't mean she can't be a geek.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I'm not saying she never liked anything, I'm just saying that it makes me worry that her whole persona as "Geek Queen" might, just might, be nothing more than a marketing ploy to target a specific demographic. Not saying that she can't possibly be a real geek, but that she has an awful lot to gain, that has been gained, by pretending to be a real geek, and that now we know she's willing to pretend to be a bigger fan of something just for appearence sake, people should be allowed to question it.

We say this about literally every celebrity ever, that they don't really think "they had the most fun ever working for [Director X]" or that their fans in Germany are the best most loving fans ever. We acknowledge that everyone else in a position of celebrity panders and lies to get and keep fans. But apparently when this question comes up about a female geek celebrity, we have to accept them at 100% genuine or else we're being mean.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's stupid and dumb that you think that. Stop being a dumb. There's a huge amount of space between "entirely sincere" and "entirely invented for mercenary reasons". Stop being a dumb.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The reason people have a problem with what you're saying is because you're taking a single fuck up and deciding it completely invalidates a person's identity and interests. You're also jumping to the conclusion that she was pretending instead of considering the idea that someone could be sincerely mistaken about something.

You basically come across as trying really damn hard to see this in the worst possible light.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh God SHUT THE FUCK UP. Please stop trying to justify this stupid Fake Geek Girl BS. Geek Queen, Jesus Christ, this is all so fucking stupid. You're the reason people hate geeks, why male geeks are ignored by women, because of misogynistic shit like this. Jesus Christ, paragraphs upon paragraphs of some fucking loser desperately trying to justify his dumbass hatred of a woman who dares to claim she likes XYZ interest.

Not saying that she can't possibly be a real geek, but that she has an awful lot to gain, that has been gained, by pretending to be a real geek,

Just reading this makes me cringe in 2nd hand embarrassment. I'm not saying, I'm just saying gabble gabble gabble real geek fake geek gabble gabble gabble

Just stop. Let people enjoy their interests, let them talk about what they like, let them make mistakes in interviews and stop fucking gatekeeping. Nobody needs to prove anything to you, of all people.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. She she can be a geek and still not know the history of comedy/comedic acts. Now if she said she was a big fan of comedy movies of the 1930s and didn't know The Marx Brothers from the Stooges then I might wonder. But a "geek"? No, she can still be that and not know squat about all sorts of topics the OP considers important to geek cred. People (geeks included) can and often do have a narrow focus of interest. Day obviously doesn't have much interest in vaudeville era comedy. She can still be geek.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-15 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I would conclude that you made a dumb mistake and inquire deeper to figure out what was going on

I would not immediately conclude that you were lying as part of a conscious effort to trick other people and hustle them out of their money

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-08-15 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Or Google's advertising money, which is more likely the case.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Or I could just call you on your bullshit. Period.