[ SECRET POST #3147 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3147 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[sarillia]

I would agree with what I think ayrt is getting at that pretentious implies motives about the person who made it in a way that shallow and a lot of other criticisms don't.

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[diet_poison]

I guess I don't agree with that necessarily. What sets pretentiousness apart?

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[sarillia]

A movie can be shallow no matter what the intent of the creator. Maybe they tried for something deep and failed or maybe the final result is exactly as shallow as it was supposed to be. But pretentiousness is predicated on the creator trying to come across a certain way. People are disagreeing with me on this by saying that the movie itself is what's trying to seem deep but isn't, but movies aren't trying to do anything. They have no will of their own. Any motive goes back to the creators.

I guess I'm just inconsistent about when I nitpick over personifying this sort of thing and when I don't. I'm sure there are similar arguments where I'd be on the other side. I'm not offended or anything. It's really a semantic argument, but I happen to enjoy semantics so here I am.

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[diet_poison]

I see what you're saying. I do feel like a person can make a pretentious movie without always being pretentious. Maybe they were pretentious in the making of that movie.

For what it's worth, I don't consume very much art which I then turn around and say "well that was pretentious". I think if anything struck me that way I would not bother finishing it. But I'm much more likely to think of a person as pretentious, or a person's actions/words as pretentious, than art. I'm not sure why. I guess my assessment of art isn't as nuanced as a lot of others', as made evident by the fact that I tend to get really excited about things that other people find mediocre, and that could have something to do with it.