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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-16 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3147 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3147 ⌋

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dethtoll: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-08-16 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to start with the first part of your question, largely because it'd be a longer answer.

So, off the top of my head...

House of Leaves
Drive
MOON
Alien
Stalker
Marathon
Silent Hill 2
Metal Gear Solid 2
Kentucky Route Zero
Ico/Shadow of the Colossus
Journey
Spec Ops: The Line
Bioshock 2 (especially the DLC)
The Last Of Us

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As far as the 2nd half of your question -- Dear Esther, hands down. Fuck that game. It's an environment artist's portfolio with absolutely no gameplay, set to too-loud string music and nonsensical poetry by a boring British hipster, all of it combining to basically pester you the whole hour or so saying "are you sad yet? are you? are you?" And they want $10 for the experience.

I'm also still pretty disgusted with Bioshock Infinite, which is a parade of half-formed ideas that weren't going to be anything amazing in the first place. (Let's talk about American imperialism! Let's talk about racism! Let's be as ham-fisted about it as possible! Let's throw the only sympathetic character under the bus to make a lame point about how revolutions are no better than the regimes they fight! That isn't glib, trite and ahistorical at all! Now let's chuck all that and play around with Baby's First Alternate Universe Plot!)

Gone Home is a weird middle ground. On the one hand I don't actually begrudge a game attempting to tackle queer issues, and the game certainly delivered on the primary reason I bought it (90s nostalgia) but none of the characters were likable, least of all Sam (who the game is supposed to be about!) and the player character is a cipher and therefore a weird void in the family.

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
*tips fedora*

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
*suicide encouragement*

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
*Applause.*
takaraikarin: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] takaraikarin 2015-08-16 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not that big on games, but I thought Last of Us is universally loved. What made you think pretentious about that, BTW?
comradesmiler: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2015-08-16 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I think that's what Dethtoll thinks is artistic, not pretentious.
takaraikarin: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] takaraikarin 2015-08-16 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow. I really can't English so early in the morning, apparently.

Ignore me.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-08-16 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
So you think Alien is pretentious? Or you just didn't like it? Or do you mean a game of Alien?

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
list = artistic
paragraphs = pretentious
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-08-16 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay. Sorry - i'm a little fuzzy.

I was kinda looking forward to an explanation of how 'Alien' was pretentious, though. :)
caerbannog: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-08-16 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I now see this and also feel let down. I'm ready for an overdranatic argument, but AYRT ruined that.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-08-16 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Heeeee! Yup. :)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Especially since it's lumped in with House of Leaves, which actually is a pretentious piece of shit.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-08-17 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I've never read that, but i haven't really seen anything about it that makes me want to read it. It just seems...odd.
caerbannog: (Default)

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-08-16 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok I'm sorry we can't associate anymore because you put Alien on that list </3 Prometheus, sure. But Alien? How dare you. That's a classic and has gorgeous world building, character designs and death. I am so betrayed right now ;(

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
dethtoll really failed with making that post clear, oh man.

Re: Artistic or pretentious media?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
OP here, lol. My fault for vaguely asking two separate and opposite questions in the same post while mostly focusing on the second question.