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I was responding to your prejudice-against-teen-moms-is-bad argument, not the OP's all-teen-moms-are-sluts argument. And YOU didn't exactly clarify whether you supported blanket protection from any form of criticism against ALL teenage mothers, or just the ones who used birth control and weren't promiscuous.

those who may have been in a committed relationship when their birth control failed

That's your middle ground right there. The prejudice against teenage mothers is aimed at the drunken orgy type, not the broken condom type. Sure, there's a few remnants of OMG PREGGERS AT 15 = INSTA-SLUT FOREVERS!, but that mentality is dying out, and most people will be fairly sympathetic to a girl who did everything she was supposed to do but still got knocked up by sheer dumb luck. What they aren't, and in my opinion, SHOULD NOT, be sympathetic towards are the brainless twits who can't keep their legs closed or at least buy a rubber and then piss and moan because they just flushed 18 years of their lives down the toilet.

Maybe I'm not wording this right. What I'm saying is, if the OP instantly categorizes all teenage mothers as the latter, yeah, I think that's stupid. But so is arguing that calling a slut a slut = misogyny. If that's not what you meant then I apologize, but that's how I interpreted it.

Sorry, I did misunderstand the context of your post. Mea culpa. It's not that I support blanket protection, dangerous and destructive behavior should be criticized, it's that I didn't like what I saw as a generalization OR the judgmental nature of the post.

The thing is, 'slut' IS a sexist term, regardless if you think it's apt or not. It is (traditionally) associated with one gender and supports a double standard. I don't see anything wrong with disapproving of promiscuous behavior, but it can be done without relying on language that is typically based on the person's gender as much as their behavior. Or I suppose to be equal opportunity we can push the use of the term 'man-slut,' either way.

[Slut] is (traditionally) associated with one gender and supports a double standard.

I was gonna argue that the words "cad" and "rake" are also gender-specific because men who toss their newly impregnated "conquests" for the wolves are generally frowned upon, but come to think of it, they don't take nearly as much shit as any woman who shows the slightest hint of a libido. We live in a world where a girl can get called a slut for having big boobs.

(I freely admit I'm probably less charitable towards the dumb broads who can't be bothered with safe sex than I should be, but the thought of some dickhead tossing his partner aside like garbage when she "mysteriously" gets pregnant makes my blood boil. I'd take sluts over cads any day.)

In fact, the word "slut" gets abused so much it's practically synonymous with "cunt" or "bitch", i.e., "I don't like this chick for reasons that are almost invariably because I'm a misogynistic fuck. Therefore, I will imply that she turns tricks at the bus stop for smack even if she's never been taken out of the packaging because women are not allowed to have sexual urges."

Also, 'cad' and 'rake' have mostly fallen out of use, whereas 'slut'... hasn't. And 'rakish' has actually come to have a positive implication (see: "rakishly handsome") whereas I can't imagine 'slutty' ever being positive.

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