[ SECRET POST #394 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #394 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 375 secrets from Secret Submission Post #057.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat, [ 1 2 ] too big, [ 1 ] personal attack, [ 1 ] we went through this yesterday.
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Comments

Re: 16

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

Yeah. And...oh god, I haven't gotten that far but nnnnh. I'm probably going to out of masochism. Then I'm going to go rant on the politics filter of my Livejournal how much I hate the "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ" argument, and specifically the argument of going "OMG YOU WERE BEING MAN-HATING" to people who...really weren't saying anything about men; they were just trying to defend women. :P

Re: 16

[ronsard.livejournal.com]

I don't know about F!S, but the OMG TEH MENZ argument gets slung around plenty whenever issues of gender come up where I go to school. Would you believe some frat boys took a picture of themselves dressed as thugs holding a sign saying "WE LOVE SLUTS." while standing in front the Women's Center, the mother organization for rape victim support, and a bunch of people actually went up in arms over the lack of a Men's Center? D:

Re: 16

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

I...

I can believe it, but that doesn't mean it hurts me less augh.

Re: 16

[likespring.livejournal.com]

I remember seeing that. That was Yale, wasn't it? Really infuriating and... just awful. I couldn't believe someone had done that -- while at the same time I could believe it, you know?

Re: 16

[ronsard.livejournal.com]

Crap. This shit made it that far outside the walls, huh? Yeah, I can certainly believe it, since it's not exactly uncommon here, but that doesn't make reading about it in the school paper anymore fun :)

Re: 16

[likespring.livejournal.com]

I think I read it in one of the feminist blogs, maybe? I am pretty sure it was Feministing. So, outside of the school, but not exactly hugely blown up everywhere or anything. Stupid stuff happens everywhere, unfortunately. :/

Re: 16

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

..what the fuck.

Re: 16

[ronsard.livejournal.com]

Now, to be fair, I'm pretty sure the actual frat boys in question had no clue what the hell they were doing nor what that building they were standing in front of was supposed to be, which just makes them dumb as rocks, but some upperclassmen in the "brotherhood" obviously orchestrated the prank and are shitheads for it.

Now, going to the ivygate blog and reading the insightful comments of all the wonderful intellectuals doing their virtual male posturing over the incident, that's enlightening.

Re: 16

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

Lulz, I would love to engage in intellectual conversation about this but I've had such a high dosage of male and white privilege lately that my head is scrambled. I love how patriarchy, to men, seems to mean "People with a penis", and thinks taking down an institution means "taking down people with a penis".

And.

I'm getting incoherant.

Basically, that story is repulsive but sadly not surprising.

Re: 16

[madra-liath.livejournal.com]

the OMG TEH MENZ argument gets slung around plenty whenever issues of gender come up where I go to school.

It comes up lots of places. It's nearly impossible to have a conversation about women's issues without guys swinging in to bawwww about how tough they have it. And sure, men have issues too, but, uh, we were talking about women. Then they protest when we set up a safe place where we can talk without the conversation being railroaded by WHAT ABOUT THE MEN???