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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-03 05:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #394 ]


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Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 375 secrets from Secret Submission Post #057.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat, [ 1 2 ] too big, [ 1 ] personal attack, [ 1 ] we went through this yesterday.
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Re: 16

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Or the boyfriend can not have sex with her.

You sound like a misogynist asshole. In the immortal words of Keith Olbermann, "Save the oxygen for someone whose brain needs it. Kill yourself."

Re: 16

[identity profile] likespring.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Keith Olbermann ♥!

Oh, and, agreed.

Re: 16

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
I do enjoy Mr. Olbermann <3

And also people who aren't sexist as hell.

Re: 16

[identity profile] likespring.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Two very good things indeed.

Re: 16

[identity profile] viserys.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Am I really a "misogynist" when I am, in fact... Encouraging girls to be more proactive in the relationship, not let themselves be taken advantage of or pressured into sex by their boyfriends, be strong and tell them no, generally grow some damn balls and do something about it if they don't want to get pregnant. Etcetc.

I don't see where I'm coming across as a woman hater at all. If anything, tag me as a misandrist, since -- as a few people have kindly been pointing out for me so far -- I in fact hate males more than females. (Thus, the fact that the comment you replied to basically reads, "The girl needs to take control if she doesn't want to get pregnant, because the guy sure as hell isn't thinking about it in most cases. If she gets pregnant, it's more than likely her fault.")

I don't care about being an asshole, though. If having a different opinion makes me an asshole, great. I will wear that badge.

That said, I will probably take your advice and at least not post anymore. I'm not getting anywhere in this argument, and you guys obviously sure aren't with me, especially not since you guys are basically all regurgitating the same shit back to me over and over again. So. Good night!

Re: 16

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
The girl needs to take control if she doesn't want to get pregnant, because the guy sure as hell isn't thinking about it in most cases. If she gets pregnant, it's more than likely her fault.

And right there is where the disconnect is.

It's not HER fault the guy isn't thinking about it. It's his. You don't seem to get that, and that's the problem.

Re: 16

[identity profile] viserys.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
I do seem to get it. My point is that if he's not thinking about it, it shouldn't even be a problem as long as she is. If the girl doesn't want to get pregnant, take the fucking pill, tell that asshole to put on a condom or gtfo. No, it's not her responsibility to baby the guy and make sure he wears one. But there's tons of other options if the guy isn't thinking -- which they usually aren't.

Like I said in some comment somewhere else, though, neither party in this argument is getting anywhere. We're both essentially arguing with a wall. Maybe I fucking fail at typing, but 90% of you guys are missing what I'm trying to say entirely. So. I'm done.

Re: 16

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not missing a damn thing; I understand your point completely.

I just think it's seriously wrong and you seriously need to evaluate your position and why you take it.

Re: 16

[identity profile] viserys.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I know exactly why. But sure, I'll think about it some more. If anything, it'll just make me think it even more strongly. Thanks, though. 8D

Re: 16

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
That's a shame.

Oh, victim blaming. The bane of my degree.

Re: 16

[identity profile] vilify.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Or when they are thinking, they're thinking "the pregnancy won't be my problem".

Re: 16

[identity profile] laserdragon.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
>>Encouraging girls to be more proactive in the relationship, not let themselves be taken advantage of or pressured into sex by their boyfriends, be strong and tell them no, generally grow some damn balls and do something about it if they don't want to get pregnant.

>>be strong and tell them no, generally grow some damn balls and do something about it

>>grow some damn balls

I see what you did there.

Re: 16

[identity profile] viserys.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, LOL, I guess you got me.