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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-23 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3154 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3154 ⌋

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Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
i believe they mean self defense.
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Re: Inspired by another thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-08-23 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's just a good thing for everyone to know. There is absolutely no reason to frame it as "teaching women to avoid being raped."

Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
There is exactly one reason.

Because it means that if a woman doesn't know self defense and gets raped, it's her fault.

That's the only possible reason for framing it that way and I can only assume the reason why people are doing so.
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Re: Inspired by another thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-08-23 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with you. Which is exactly the problem I have with the "teach women not to be raped" idea. It always involves victim blaming. Teaching everybody to be able to take care of themselves is good. When you start framing it as targeting women only and making it only about avoiding rape it ends up victim blaming as well as involving a lot of sexist connotations.

Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you - imagine somebody claiming that muggings would not happen if more men new martial arts. Or bringing that up every time somebody was mugged - "well, why weren't you trained in hand-to-hand?" "Why weren't you armed?" "Did you forget to wear your bullet-proof vest or something?"

Would anybody ask a man who was mugged why he was out after dark alone? No.
Was I asked why I was out alone after dark (bearing in mind, on my own fucking street, not even pm)? YES. I was even told BY COPS I should have "walked with a friend" or "taken the tram" (how this magical assault-preventing friend is supposed to get home after delivering me to the safe haven of my house is a mystery to me; also, the tram-stop is further away from my house than where I was coming from. :/ So, clearly, every day when I go home from work I'm being so ridiculously imprudent and failing to "avoid rape".)
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Re: Inspired by another thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-24 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
ughh. :(