[ SECRET POST #3154 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3154 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Unpopular Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

My point here - as it has been - is that socially constructed is not the same as arbitrary.

If you can make the same kind of analysis of what it means for a white person to identify as an Asian that you can for what it means for a girl to identify as a boy, that would be a start.

But supporting trans* people isn't just because we say "Hey, you know, whatever, you do you."

Re: Unpopular Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

…But gender isn't arbitrary either?

For most, I imagine it's assigned based on genitalia.

There is a basis by which race is constructed, I'll give you that. But it's still socially constructed. Just as gender is.

Although, with both race and gender, the lines are blurred in a lot of cases. (Intersex people for example).

Supporting trans people means we recognize that people have the right not to be forced to accept a gender that was imposed on them that they don't identify with. I don't see why race should be different, in this regard.

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[(Anonymous)]

I never said gender is arbitrary.

Re: Unpopular Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I guess my confusion lies in the fact that it seems we agree that both gender and race, while not arbitrary, are social constructs.

So why would we not support both people who don't identify with the race or gender they were assigned?

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[diet_poison]

The point, I think, is that "because I feel like it" isn't a good reason. Trans people have provided very specific sets of reasons why being trans make sense. The whole other-race-identifying thing? People haven't really done that.

Re: Unpopular Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, Rachel Dolezal did provide reasoning, but we've all collectively thrown it out and shunned her because we deemed that it didn't count. She has Black family that she relates to, she always felt disconnected from her white parentage and lineage, like it didn't fit her at all, and she identifies closely with the Black experience-- to the point of being one of the most active forces on the west coast for the advancement of civil rights, completely revitalizing the Spokane NAACP chapter.

It's very similar to trans language and experience, but we decided it didn't count. Why?