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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-23 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3154 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3154 ⌋

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Re: Unpopular Opinions

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-08-23 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you kind of missed my point -- the stealing food analogy just doesn't work, and your grocery store comparison doesn't work either. Physical items cannot be copied, unless you're Jesus. Yes, a lot of food is going to get thrown out (unless the store donates some of it) -- but until it does, it's still on store shelves.

No, nobody has a right to a particular form of entertainment. But part of the problem is that in many cases, it's impossible to get that entertainment without torrenting; worse, you often have no idea if it's going to be any good, and your money will have been wasted. This is the problem the music industry has faced for years -- an album would be put out with like ONE good song, and you had to pay $15-20 for it. It took Napster and its successors to force the industry into what we have today -- easy, accessible internet radio, the option to buy single songs for a buck, and most importantly, MUCH easier access for up and coming artists to be able to promote and distribute their music (Bandcamp has been a godsend, as has Soundcloud.)

The way I see it, if you're broke, and you don't really have a lot of viable options for entertainment beyond watching people make classist arguments on Fandom Secrets (as an example) then go ahead and pirate. It's not ethical, and no, you're not entitled to that movie or game you just torrented. But it's not that big a deal, and can go a long way towards improving one's mental health in a way "free" entertainment might not be able to.* However, it does behoove you, if you like the product, to support the creators and buy it when you can. To me, this is the fundamentally important thing when it comes to torrents, and it's an admonishment that video game cracking groups make all the time: IF YOU LIKE IT, BUY IT. Otherwise they won't make anymore! (And the cracking groups won't have anything left to crack, of course -- they do it to sharpen their skills more than anything else.)

* That's one thing OP of the old thread didn't get. Not only was a lot of "free" entertainment not actually free, but it's not like you had a guarantee of quality either.
Edited 2015-08-23 23:06 (UTC)
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Re: Unpopular Opinions

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-08-24 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
On the subject of video game cracking groups, I suspect a lot of the time they crack games specifically for the purposes of making mods, cheats and exporting graphics for artists. Such pursuits are not for the sole interest of people who pirate the games.

Re: Unpopular Opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
it's not like you had a guarantee of quality either.

Or availability. I've lost count of the times I've tried to watch a show on one of the free streaming sites only to be told "Sorry, this is blocked in your country!"

"Use a proxy!"
But Morally Superior OP, that means I'd get free access to content I'd otherwise had to pay for in my country and that's bad, right? :(

Re: Unpopular Opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"Just watch Hetalia, it's free on Hulu!"

a) I don't like fucking Hetalia, and b) I'd need a fucking proxy anyway.

But I should just suck it up because any alternative would ~harm someone and besides, Morally Superior OP would disapprove of my thieving lower class ways.