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Re: Inspired by another thread
(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)If you're walking around naked and intoxicated at 2 am, not due to outside circumstances beyond your control but because you have made the choice to do so, you have to take some of the blame. The point is education, it's why we teach awareness and the buddy system and all these little things. Giving a woman tools that can benefit her, because she might make a mistake, is not victim blaming.
Re: Inspired by another thread
(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Inspired by another thread
(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)Men be bad. Women be smart. Women be safer. Women safe good.
Re: Inspired by another thread
(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 12:02 am (UTC)(link)similarly, the thing with your caveman-version of your argument isn't that it's untrue; it's that you're just willfully ignoring every other part of the fucking situation, for no real reason.
Yes. Training women to be safer would likely have some effect on making them safer. BUT -
1) It will make them safer to a much lesser extent than you seem to think, because your understanding of the situation is really stupid.
2) It will likely lead to more victim blaming, which is bad and dumb.
3) It is widely pushed by people who think it is the only thing we need to do about rape, which is bad and dumb.
Therefore, because of those reasons, it is probably good to have a position that goes beyond a literal insistence of the truth of the statement "Training women in self-defense and safety might decrease the amount of rape."
Re: Inspired by another thread
Re: Inspired by another thread
(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 01:19 am (UTC)(link)Re: Inspired by another thread
first of all, that's extremely melodramatic
second of all, men are not super likely to rape someone just because she's not ~modestly dressed~ give me a break. most rapes happen with people the victim already knows. rapists are more likely to go for someone who they believe is vulnerable than someone who gives them an immediate boner.
walking around alone drunk is a bad idea for anyone regardless of their gender or wardrobe selection. that's just common sense. nobody is advocating we start saying it's not a good idea. but yes victim-blaming is a huge problem and no we're not calling for the immediate castration of rapists, we're calling for the judicial process to actually be FAIR and it's frustrating that you don't see that.