[ SECRET POST #3158 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3158 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fingalsanteater]

Now that I've seen B5, I feel like I need to rewatch DS9 with this criticism in mind.

[philstar22]

I kind of feel like this too. I'm on a Trek rewatch of the 3 24th century series. DS9 has always been my favorite, but now that Babylon 5 is my absolute favorite tv series I'm wondering if I'll feel differently in the rewatch.

[fingalsanteater]

I've been wracking brain thinking of how DS9 is a blatant rip off, but I'm not exactly sure that the criticism is really accurate. I mean, is it darker sci-fi concerned involving war and God-like aliens? Yes. But this is common in a lot of sci-fi. So there were two darker sci-fi shows running concurrently. I'd like to know how it was ripping off B5 unsubtly.

[philstar22]

Well, it was originally a rip-off. Intentionally so. With the space station thing. But I don't really think it ended up being all that similar, though maybe my memory is faulty because it has been a few years since I've watched DS9.

[fingalsanteater]

I didn't think about the original concept being a rip-off, lol. I forgot B5 kind of came first. But yeah, I recall the story being rather different besides the obvious similarities.

[philstar22]

It was a rip-off in the sense that Strazinski pitched B5 to Paramount first. They turned it down, Warner Brothers took it, and then Paramount came out with Deep Space 9 very shortly after. DS9 quickly became its own thing and I doubt it was ever a direct copy given how different the characters are. But the origins are a bit hinky.

[fingalsanteater]

Ah, yes. I recall reading about that now.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, the idea of doing a Trek show on a Space Station was being floated as far back as the 1970s, it was one of the things considered for Phase 2 before that was dumped for the movie series. Yes, JMS had an interview and a pitch at Paramount, but he wasn't the first person to pitch a Space Station show to them. Even JMS agrees it wasn't a rip. You might as well call Voyager a rip off of Red Dwarf on basis they are both in deep space and trying to get back to earth and have a hologram as main cast.

[(Anonymous)]

DS9 at the very least took great influence from B5's entire premise. I wish I had a source for this, but I've heard it bandied about that JMS first pitched B5 to Paramount and they rejected it. Then, when B5 got picked up by a different network, suddenly Paramount came out with DS9 -- their own sci-fi show about people and aliens on a space station, starting in the aftermath of a great war, and centered on a conflict between a formerly colonized world and the recently ousted imperialist power.

[(Anonymous)]

Seen both many times - sorry, no.