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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-02 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3164 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3164 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-02 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
What's the diff btwn that and Japanese manga? Seriously.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-02 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
What are you talking about? Japanese manga is based on a highly stylized Japanese appearance, just as Western cartoons are based on a highly stylized white appearance. Manga-style characters aren't any less Japanese than yellow-skinned bug-eyed Simpsons characters are white.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-02 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, ok. Almost all of their anime/manga characters look completely Caucasoid.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-02 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
No they don't, they only look that way in comparison to western animation's stereotypical portrayal of asian people (slanted slit eyes, etc.)

But again: manga/anime characters aren't any farther from looking asian than western animated characters are from looking white.

The only exception, perhaps, is that asian people really do have a much narrower range of hair colors than caucasians.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-02 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

This. Seriously, asian people do not think that the people around them have eyes like slanted closed slits -- they just look like eyes. White people who aren't used to being around asians think asians' eyes look super-noticeable and slanted because they're so much more slanted than what they're used to.

And manga/anime characters definitely take a lot from asian appearances -- most obvious is the way noses are drawn, with little-to-no bridge (because nose bridges are not prominent at all in asian people, so in stylized animation, the brides are completely erased -- the same way eyelids are often erased in western animated characters.)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-03 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

"asian people do not think that the people around them have eyes like slanted closed slits -- they just look like eyes. White people who aren't used to being around asians think asians' eyes look super-noticeable and slanted because they're so much more slanted than what they're used to."


This + a million

(Anonymous) 2015-09-03 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
most obvious is the way noses are drawn, with little-to-no bridge

Which is why another common way to show someone is a foreigner is by drawing their nose bridge.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-02 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"western animation's stereotypical portrayal of asian people"

Lol yep.

How many people thought Jane and Trent from Daria were asian or part asian, because of the way they were drawn? They weren't, but people were so used to seeing slant eyes + black hair = code for asian in Western cartoons that a lot of people assumed they were.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-03 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Exactly this -- they don't look white, they just don't conform to the western-animation codes for asian. "White" animated characters look pretty damn far from real white people too.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-03 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
And it's REALLY OBVIOUS when they put a white person in an otherwise Japanese group. They look overtly different from their Japanese peers, because they're ~foreign~

(Anonymous) 2015-09-03 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
They don't even look that different. If it's a character from the U.S or England the only difference is they have blonde hair with blue eyes and they're rich.
Come to think of it... I can't think of a single instance where the foreigner isn't blonde...
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-09-03 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Big boobs. You forgot that they will also have big boobs.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-03 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes their eyes are drawn different and their nose bridge is more prominent, but pretty much this.

That said, I remember Sailor Moon had a victim-of-the-day foreigner who was light brunette.