[ SECRET POST #3168 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3168 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Criminal Minds]


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[Community]


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(Harry Potter, Yu-Gi-Oh)


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[JerryC]


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[J.K. Rowling/Harry Potter]


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[Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance]


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[Hatfields & McCoys]


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[Proof]


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[Brooklyn Nine Nine]


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[Scarlett Johansson]


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[No Escape]











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Comments

[arcadiaego]

It's funny, because I thought the disgust was New School. When I was an internet nipper, there was a *lot* of bandom going on, so lots of RPF. Now it's basically akin to admitting you like fic about child abuse.

(I do think there are morality problems with the stories you mention actually, but not by default, just because I think they told things from a perspective I don't agree with.)

[(Anonymous)]

It's funny, because I thought the disgust was New School

I think maybe it can be seen as both? Back in the late 90s and early 00s RPF was VERY frowned upon in most fandom circles. Then there was an RPF boom and it became a lot more pervasive and talked over, and therefore a lot more normalized and accepted by most. I was unaware that there was this anti-RPF backlash taking place, but the amount of anti-RPF sentiments being expressed in this comm definitely makes a case for your "New School" theory. Either that or F!S is just ridiculously conservative about RPF, in a never-left-the-90s sort of way.

[arcadiaego]

Ah, I would have been really getting into fandom in that 'boom' time you mention, so that would explain a lot. I'm not sure what caused the backlash, though. I don't write and very rarely read RPF so I don't really have a horse in this race, but it's hard to adjust to the new morality.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm actually in the same boat; I don't write and rarely read RPF either. I just find people's objections to it to be, by and large, so reactionary, ill-considered, and...weirdly moralistic? In the sense that it's irrational to be against RPF if one is not also against like a third of the movies in Hollywood. Yet hardly anybody actually takes such a hard line when the RPF is sanctioned by a team of professionals - despite the fact that movies based on real people reach far bigger audiences, and are often quite irresponsible in how they blur the lines between fiction and reality (The Imitation Game and it's casual depiction of treason springs to mind). Hell, it's often in the best interests of all involved to take liberties by adding in some fictional spice, so that audiences will be more entertained and more money will be made. I'd call that a pretty deep-running conflict of interest between the ethical side (tell the truth about a real thing) and the practical side (make money).

Meanwhile, none of this is true of RPF.

It's really all lines in the sand, of course, including my lines in the sand (no putting real people's names on characters who are committing rape/torture). But at least my lines in the sand had some rationality behind them. Which is to say that when an RPF character is depicted as doing something so bad or socially taboo that, if it were mistaken for true it could destroy their entire life, I think that becomes something that's not okay to attach a real person's name to.

[arcadiaego]

I agree with everything you've said think there are definitely *forms* of RPF I don't agree with (and The Imitation Game - because I do consider that sort of thing to be fanfic - did actually deeply offend me due to the suggestion of Turing even temporarily covering up Cairncross - as if the poor guy didn't have enough done to him!) but it's the idea that it's wrong in principle that I find reactionary.

(In fact usually when a relative objects to a film's portrayal of their family, the fandom opinion usually seems to be that they are 'more sensitive' because of their subjective personal involvement.)