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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-07 06:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3169 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
She's 5'2 and weighs 150lbs. That's overweight.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you aren't basing this conclusion off the BMI.

Because there are a lot of factors the BMI doesn't take into consideration. (Body type, muscle mass, distribution of fat, etc.)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the lady isn't exactly covered in heavy muscle. She's overweight.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
BMI really only doesn't work for a specific subset of people, i.e. body builders/athletes.

Meghan Trainor is neither of these things, ergo BMI is accurate.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Not true, but feel free to continue with your delusion.

Different people have different builds. What is overweight for one person may be fine for someone with a different body type. The human race is not divided into "fat", "skinny", and "athletic". There is much more variation than that.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds to me like you're the one who's delusional. Have any evidence to back up your assertions?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

please tell me you're not seriously arguing that everyone is either fat, skinny, or an athlete and there is zero variation other than that.

please, please let me go on believing that no one is actually this stupid.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
bmi was invented to measure a large population based on averages

it was never meant to be accurate enough to measure an individuals health. yet here we are.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
And the moral of this story is: people are stupid and like to misapply things that don't necessarily work for every situation.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
BMI is not a bible, obviously, but it's a decent indicator of your weight class. Throwing it out the window entirely is just as silly as taking it as gospel.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
Like using a thermometer to diagnose an illness.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
According to some insurance table somewhere. Meaningless for health purposes or real human beings living day to day.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's not meaningless for health purposes. But keep telling yourself that.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me guess. You're one of those people who think any woman over 100 lb. is fat, regardless of her build?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

One thing the BMI is very good for is figuring out how hard your heart has to work to pump blood around. And this is true even for athletes for whom the weight is all muscle. And it's a good thing to be aware of for your future cardiac health.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
As a medical professional whose job it is to understand BMI and its usage for a living...yes, it's meaningless for health purposes on an individual level. Stop trying to define someone as obese/fat/overweight based on BMI exceeding 25 or something.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Then why has every doctor I've ever been to talked to me about my BMI and being overweight? (not obese, just overweight)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, I've been explicitly evaluated by a doctor on the basis of BMI. So... I think I trust him more than I do some stranger who claims to be a doctor on the internet.

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141121214541/meghan-trainer/images/8/8f/Meghan-trainor-cma-awards-2014-gi.jpg


where tho?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
She doesn't look fat to me. Judging from that picture, she looks like she has big hips and big breasts. Not so different from Nicki Minaj, really.

However, also judging from that picture, she also seems to have broader shoulders than the average female celebrity, which in conjunction with the traits I mentioned above, could make her appear to be fat when wearing unflattering clothing.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
This. Some women just give the impression of taking up a lot of space due to things like large busts and broad shoulders (especially when combined with height, although it sounds like Trainor is on the short side) when they really aren't fat. We're so conditioned to think women shouldn't take up space (see the stuff Geena Davis has been saying about women in movie crowd scenes) that when a woman takes up space, we feel there is a problem. "Her body takes up too much space" quickly becomes "she is fat" in our minds.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2015-09-10 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
Coming in late, but I still had this open. Doubt I'll get a reply but hey. From that pic, looking at her wrists and ankles and general body shape, I'd guess she's also larger-boned. There are modified versions of the BMI, which are generally more accurate, that take bone size into account. They're not completely accurate, for those of us who have additional bone weight from scoliosis/lordosis, but they're more in line. I know I've seen calculators at medical sites but this is the one I could find quickly: http://tunza.com.au/ThePlanet/templates/theplanet-00/BMICalculator-Index.htm

From that, inputting large frame, 160lbs, 5'5 as was corrected below puts her at a 26.5 BMI, which is not obese and in the "desired" range. But even most doctors don't go by the modified version, despite that it's more accurate. I'm not surprised that the media is insisting she's "fat" even though she's perfectly healthy.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I wanna know why the hell everyone jumped on this comment and not the ones above it saying the exact same thing.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-08 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
She's 5'5"