[ SECRET POST #3169 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3169 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

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But why does anger have to have "a point"? Anger rarely is helpful, so if we're going to be really zen, then we shouldn't get upset about anything at all. If people are irritated or upset about a certain portrayal or whatever, I don't think their feelings are irrational because they could simply "not read it".

Your examples about Christian bashing, well. I agree it's really rude, but bigoted? Assuming they aren't just being a jackass for the purpose of pissing people off in a situation where the topic isn't being discussed in the first place... I mean, people have the right to express the opinion that God is made up, or talk about problems of sexual abuse by priests. I'm not sure I'd call that bigotry.

[iceyred]

I only have so much energy to spare. I'm not going to get upset about something unless that anger is going to accomplish something, be it convincing someone to change the plot point/details/elements of their work, or quit being a jackass about my religion. If I'm seeing the hypothetical anime, then it's a little late for anything to be changed.

Yes, bashing a religion for the sake of bashing it is bigoted. People target Christianity because they could never get away with bashing any other group. There is a big difference between 'Well, I don't believe in God, and the recent sex scandals involving priests and children really made me angry' and 'hurr hurr hurr priests r rapists u guise.' One of those is a civil discussion. The other is bigotry and getting mad will hopefully convey the message that it's not okay to bash Catholicism.

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree that criticism, even harsh and rude criticism, of religion is necessarily "bigotry". I don't think someone stating "religion is stupid" indicates such. Bashing religion seems perfectly valid to me, but the line is when you're bashing the people who follow that religion. There's a difference between attacking Christianity, and attacking Christians, and the latter is what would qualify as bigotry to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I would never have thought you'd be in favor of political correctness.

[(Anonymous)]

Known to people with a sense of right and wrong as fairness and good manners.

[(Anonymous)]

iceyred doesn't have a sense of right and wrong though. She makes fun of every other group and whines about people being PC. She only doesn't want people to make fun of Christians because she is one.

[(Anonymous)]

I think another reason Christianity gets mocked/bashed so much, at least here in the U.S., is because it's the majority faith practiced. Hence, it'll get more attention, positive AND negative, as a result. If any other faith were the majority one, I imagine it would get mocked and bashed a lot, too (though in different ways, perhaps, depending on the things they're mocking it for).

That said, I agree with you that there are ways to express one's disagreement with or dislike of Christianity, or any religion, for that matter, without making blanket assumptions and stereotypes and insults about the faith and all who practice it in general. I'm not really much of a religious person myself, and there's tenants of various belief systems I don't agree with or which don't make sense to me, and I'll talk about them if and when the topic comes up.

But I'm cool with people practicing whatever faith they want and believing in a god or the devil or whatever if they so wish. Religious or not, so long as everyone's treating each other with respect and not doing dickish, horrible things to people, they're pretty much good in my book.

[iceyred]

You make some good points about it being the majority religion. And I can roll with the live and let live philosophy.

[(Anonymous)]

People target Christianity because they could never get away with bashing any other group.

Ahhhhh, to have conservative blinkers on.

[feotakahari]

Yeah. Anyone else remember when Scott Walker tried to force a prison to not hire a Wiccan as the chaplain because her beliefs were "offensive"? Or when Keith Ellison wanted to be sworn into office on the Koran, and Virgil Goode took it as an opportunity to shit on him and push opposition to letting Muslims immigrate to the US?

[(Anonymous)]

Are you for real?

We have people who have fought to keep Wiccan and Asatru people in the armed forces from having access to clergy people and getting to have their symbols on their grave stones. We have people who fight to keep mosques from being built (and in my home state, people fought to keep a Buddhist temple from being built). We have people who believe that everyone who isn't Christian should be kicked out of the US. We have people who believe that atheists shouldn't be allowed to run for office. Hell, we have people who believe that anyone who isn't Protestant Christian shouldn't be allowed to run for office (shit, Romney was controversial for being a Mormon!). We have people who hate Obama based partially on their belief that he's a Muslim. And some of those people are ELECTED OFFICIALS. Some of them are running for president right now, saying this is a Christian nation and every law should be based on Christianity and anyone who isn't Christian should just suck it up.

...and you're getting your panties in a twist because people make off-color jokes about priests.