[ SECRET POST #3169 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3169 ⌋

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Comments

[diet_poison]

I think that can be true but I do think sometimes white feminists do mess up.

My question was more because I do not think all white feminists form a coherent movement called white feminism, and the implication that almost any feminist who happens to be white fails at intersectionality is kinda silly to me.

[(Anonymous)]

It's an outgrowth of the trend where people slap 'white' in front of 'girls' when they want to complain about something girls do but do not want to be called misogynists.

[(Anonymous)]

I do not think all white feminists form a coherent movement called white feminism, and the implication that almost any feminist who happens to be white fails at intersectionality is kinda silly to me.

Neither do I. And I'm pretty sure everything I've already said probably indicates that?

When I said "white feminists" in my initial comment, I meant feminists who happen to be white (but have enough experience in Social Justice Land to know they will probably be lumped together and criticized as a group if they speak ill of Anaconda.)

(Frankly, when I switch from Feminist Mode over to Anti-Racism Mode, I actually can appreciate what Anaconda might mean to black women of a curvaceous body type. I can sympathize with the fucked up body-shaming attitudes they've likely encountered, and I can see how racism is a part of those fucked up attitudes. But as a feminist? That song's fucked up. And if fellow feminists (regardless of race/ethnicity) want me to say that Minaj's championing of huge asses makes the song feminist when so much else about it is misogynist in one way or another, then I honestly don't think it's my "white feminism" that's self-involved.

Which brings me to the term "white feminism," which I used in my initial comment not because I think it exists as a separate and coherent movement, but because many other people seem to think of it and refer to it as though it is.

I do think sometimes white feminists do mess up.

Yes, sometimes we do.

[(Anonymous)]

When people talk about white feminism, they're not talking about every white feminist or about a coherent movement. They're talking about the tendency for some feminists who are white not taking intersectionality into account. A good example is the European (Dutch, I believe?) group of feminists who try to tackle issues of sexism in Middle Eastern Muslim communities without taking the culture of the area into account, and while talking over the women who actually have to live there.

It's not a conscious thing where they set out to only work on white issues. It's a privilege thing, where they don't know they're coming at things from a white POV.