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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-11 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #3173 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3173 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Detroit Metal City]


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(Gravity Falls, Criminal Minds)


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[Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders]


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13. [WARNING for rape and assault]

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Re: It's troubling

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
They have an awareness that it falls into the category commonly assigned to racist.

They do not know whether it is, in reality, racist or not.

Those are two different things.

Re: It's troubling

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, no they're not. You're being deliberately argumentative, and I'm not really interested in arguing for the sake of arguing.

Re: It's troubling

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really not. I think it's a substantive and extremely relevant different, not just arguing for the sake of argument.

If someone says that they believe a thing that they know to be racist, that implies that they know and understand why it's racist and therefore bad, and are simply lamenting that they can't help but believe it anyway.

If someone says that they believe a thing that might be racist, there's no such understanding implied. All they have is the ability to recognize what things get called racist in society. So it's a reasonable response to confirm that it is racist and to explain precisely why. If you understand why something is racist, you wouldn't say that it "might" be considered racist. You would have more confidence in it.

My point is that the conversations that flow out of those two statements are naturally and properly very different. If all your beef comes down to is that too many people are responding or that the tone is more inflamed than you want, I gotta be honest, I don't have that much sympathy.

Re: It's troubling

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
IF "racist" comments were followed up with explanations or suggestions or help or concern or any attempt to show basic understanding or compassion or recognition of the fact that someone is here posting anonymously because there's no where else they can go to pick the brains of a collective that is typically very helpful to people with all sorts of problems (unless they're racist problems)... IF such attempts were made by a majority, I wouldn't have a problem. The problem I have is that most of the replies to people who acknowledge their own racism are things like "dude that's racist" and "fuck you" and they leave it at that. Only one or two will be people who say "that's shitty, but here's some advice for you"