ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-06 12:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #397 ]


⌈ Secret Post #397 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

- Name that fandom!
- Now I'm early. College first! :D
- 50? I haven't laughed this much in forever. Have an internet. ♥

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Re: 54

[identity profile] tamburlaine.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
So wait, then what are furries sexually attracted to? What qualifies as an "average furry"? I'm being serious here.

Re: 54

(Anonymous) 2008-02-06 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
First off, gotta say that I'm not a furry and don't directly know any furries, so my opinion just comes from reading up on them and trying to understand. Secondly, every furry is different, just like everyone else, so diffrent strokes for different folks.

Now, people who are sexually attracted to and have sex with animals are Zoophiles. You don't have to be a furry to be a Zoophile! Maybe some furries are Zoophiles, but you don't have to be a furry to have sex with a horse/sheep/dog.

So what are furries? In the basic sense, a furry seems to be a person who has a "fursona", this is their "dream appearance" if you will or what they feel their soul is perhaps? For some it's fantasy, for others, that's their desired reality. I've had it described to me as being sort of the best of both worlds, having the wild raw nature of an animal with the consciousness and opposable thumbs of a human. I don't get what's wrong with just being human, but whatever. It's hard to pin down because it's such a personal thing that's different for different people.

So basically, I consider an average furry to be a person who has a fursona and feels that they are "furry on the inside" if you will. They like furry art (not necessarily erotic). The reason they like their furry art to be erotic is because it furthers that fantasy. They wish they were like that, so why wouldn't they find art of their chosen body image to be attractive? But just because they like their humanoid shapes with a tail, doesn't mean they want to stick their cock in anything that owns one.

I hope that all makes some sense. But again, not a furry, so my understanding of the topic might be a little fuzzy, so if anyone else wants to step in for some clarification, feel free.

Re: 54

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
SOME to animals. Just like some none furries are. It probably runs higher in furries, BUT as far as I can tell, the only thing that defines them as a whole is like anthro!animals.

Not to say they're aren't the weird squicky ones. But there's tons who aren't. A lot don't even view it as a sexual thing, just it's own sorta fandom.

Not furry and haven't done TONS of research, but like the anon just tried to figure it out.

Re: 54

[identity profile] nabradia.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You did enough research to get it right, dude. Rock on. =D

Re: 54

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
:D I'm not furry, but can appreciate why one would be interested in some aspects, and think they rather get fucked on the interweb.

I'd hate to be labeled a pedophile because I enjoy Naruto, or something akin to that.

Re: 54

[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTC. I'm not really into anthros or whatever, but I think it's kind of shitty how fans will blow a gasket over their very existence...when often those same people will claim IF U DON'T LIKE MY YAOI THEN DON'T READ IT. If you don't like furry crap, the back button exists for that too :)

Just because someone's fantasy weirds someone else out doesn't mean it shouldn't exist, jeez. Save that for shit like actual CP/bestiality/murder.

Re: 54

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, like...I bet the yaoi fan would be pretty pissed if everyone assumed they were all pedophiles who looked at Shota and tried to act it out in real life. I know *I* would be.

Re: 54

[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Honestly, I see most of the furry haters as nerds who feel the need to find someone 'nerdier' than themselves, so they won't seem so weird. (The sad thing is, to 'normal' people? All types of nerds are bizarre, anime/scifi/furry fen alike XD;)

Re: 54

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
So many people are so quick to judge Furries on that CSI episode, without realizing to a lot of people, that's what they have seen of any con.

(And really, I mean obviously it was compacted and shortened for the market, but the part actually AT the con? Was kinda)

Re: 54

[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
? Was kinda what?

I'm curious, as I'm not really familiar with CSI...I heard they made the furry subculture look very bad but I never did find anyone who'd seen the source to tell me how.

Re: 54

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Well the actual con had people wandering around in diffrent level of costumes, or none, and they went into one panels about...I can't remember. Like bodning with your inner animal. And another was a fasion show.

Which, if furcons are anything like anime cons feel pretty right. I think the people pissed about it are because it does what a lot of people here are and present the sexual side as being the whole culture.

But it has the best line ever. The guy who dies get poisoned by licking the guy in the cat suit, and Greg is like "That's what you get for lickin...nevermind."

Re: 54

[identity profile] baka-deshi.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I get it...it's like if they did a show about anime fans but set it at yaoicon or something, focused entirely on porn. Yeeeaaah I bet that pissed people off.

Re: 54

[identity profile] nabradia.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously? While a lot of furs are attracted to anthropomorphic things (which they deem 'safe' due to having human minds, as it were) most are primarily attracted to.. uh. Humans. Weirdly enough. Some furs -even- have OTHER interests. Amazing, huh?

For the most part, the furry thing doesn't extend further than online roleplay, and a lot don't even do that. Some take it further and choose to be weird and have sex in their costumes, but really, that's not much different than any other sort of dressing up fetish. You're fucking an animal no more than fucking a nun, or whatever. It's all make believe, obviously.

Furries have outside-internet relationships with other people. Of course, the horse-fuckers are still there, but not all people who do that -ARE- furs. Fur, for the most part = person who has an anthro animal persona on the internet or someone who just likes the look of anthro animals. Not that EVERY anthro animal fan is a fur, like.

Yeah, so they go to conventions. So do anime fans and sci-fi nerds, there's no difference.

If you're talking people who think they actually have the 'soul' of an animal in them, real or imaginary (dragons, for instance) check out 'Therianism'. That's a WHOLE new batch of batshit.

And in response to 'anon' to all furs, the fursona is not a 'dream appearance'. It's just a character, like a screen name with a picture. For some, yeah. They want nothing more than to be a wolf or a horse or whatever, but. Yeah.

That all said, after having been a fur for 11 years, I still don't know the ins and outs. Characterising furs under one big blanketed description is like doing the same for the whole of the anime fandom, for size and diversity. No one can seem to agree on it.

Re: 54

(Anonymous) 2008-02-07 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I think the problem is that 'furry' gets used as a kitchen sink for all kinds of shit. I don't think I know an 'average furry', I just know individuals. I try to stay away from the crazy ones.

(And yes, I am part of the subculture...I keep it on the down-low because I don't want to deal with the misconception that furry = pedo inflation-fetish animalfucker.)