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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-12 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3174 ]


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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-09-12 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the same fear. As long as he doesn't make her world revolve around the Doctor, I'm good.

You mean, beyond what NuWho has already done with The Master?
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[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh good point. I think RTD's Master/Doctor fic gave the Master more agency though than is potentially possible with Moff's take on Missy/Doctor, because, well, Moff.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-09-12 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't Classic Who Master revolve around the Doctor too. He seemed pretty obsessed with him anyway. They are supposed to be mirrors for each other, so it makes sense for them to revolve around each other.
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[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"A cosmos without The Doctor scarcely bears thinking about."
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-09-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I get complaints about River revolving around the Doctor, though it didn't bother me. But that's always been part of the Master's character, so why would it be wrong for it to be the same with Missy? As long as the Doctor is obsessed too I don't see the problem.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
The difference here is that the Master is now a woman. The power dynamic isn't the same, because all of Moffat's female characters' lives have revolved around men in the past.

Amy - The Doctor and Rory
River - The Doctor
Clara - 11th Doctor and Danny

Irene - Sherlock
Mary - Watson and Sherlock
Molly - Sherlock

I'm fine with the Master/Missy obsessing over The Doctor. I just want her to exist separate from the Doctor (unrealistic, I know) or at the very least be presented as an equal next to the Doctor. Moffat tried to present River as this, but it failed spectacularly.

The last time we got The Master, at least The Doctor was just as obsessed with him as he was with The Doctor.
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[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-13 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
^ Well said, I hope for this too.