[ SECRET POST #3181 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3181 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Who and what, please?

[(Anonymous)]

Luke and Laura from General Hospital.

The Comedian and Sally Jupiter from Watchmen.

Both relationships more or less started out with one raping the other (attempted rape for Watchmen) that later turned into a consensual relationship with a child.

Luke and Laura is considered daytime's #1 romance, the Comedian is viewed as a scumbag.

[(Anonymous)]

Now, when you say rape for Luke and Laura, do you mean he actively deceived, pressured or forced her into sex? Or do you mean, they were both drinking and had sex while both were conscious?

[(Anonymous)]

"n 1978 when Bobbie, who was now a nurse, was trying to separate Laura Webber and Scott Baldwin, needing help she called on the help of her big brother Luke. After one of their schemes leads to Laura being in a car accident, Luke refused to be part in any scheme that would hurt Laura, and he eventually fell in love with her. Laura soon began working at the Campus Disco run by Luke. The disco was a cover up for Luke, who was involved in many criminal activities with Frank Smith, was very distraught one night and got intoxicated at the disco club, eventually leading him to rape Laura."

[(Anonymous)]

it was rape

[(Anonymous)]

He aggressively forced her to have sex with him while she cried and said no.

Context: He was being blackmailed (I think) into doing a job for a gangster that he was 100% convinced would lead to him dying, and he was drunk and determined to have sex with the woman he loved before he died. He and Laura had a flirtation going, but she was married to another man and content to remain so. I am NOT saying she led Luke on.

The show recast the rape as a “seduction” and paired them off. They promptly became hugely popular.

In GH’s defense:

1. It was the 1970s.

2. Luke was supposed to be killed off and the storyline would then revolve around Laura and her husband dealing with the aftermath of her rape. However, backstage politics meant that Luke ended up sticking around, so they had to do something with the character.

3. The show did eventually deal with the rape head-on in the 1990s.

4. Tony Geary and Genie Francis have really exceptional chemistry, and because of that the audience wanted them together.

Both relationship are twisted, but Moore deliberately wrote Sally and the Comedian that way. Luke and Laura were written as a super couple. It’s natural the audience responds to them differently.

[ceebeegee]

The show dealt with the rape head-on but the official response is still pretty fucked-up. If you read the WP page on Luke and Laura, it says: "However, the writers decided to have the characters look back on the incident as a seduction instead of a rape because the pairing resonated with the audience. "From that point on, we played [Luke's] regret and his total devastation," Geary said. "That's a story nobody wants to tell—that the rapist's life is as devastated as the person he rapes. His great love and regret and guilt are what caught the audience so off guard." Notice whose "total devastation" is not being discussed? Won't someone please think of the rapists?!?! VOMIT. The whole article talks about LUKE"S reaction to the rape HE ACTIVELY CHOSE TO DO and hardly at all about Laura's. I love Geary's "that's a story nobody wants to tell." Yeah, you're so BRAVE to focus on the rapist and not on the victim.

Also check out the comments on the YouTube clips of this scene--some of them are still very victim-blame-y.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree wholeheartedly that making Laura's rape all about Luke's manpain is fucking gross. However, I don't think it's fair to blame Geary for that. In that interview he's talking about his character's feelings and his role in the storyline. He's not talking about how Laura feels because he doesn't play Laura. He's finding a way to understand and sympathize with Luke because that's what actors do.

Geary's not perfect, not by a long shot, but he's always been open about how twisted and damaged Luke is. Really, I think he understands the character much better than the writers do.

[ceebeegee]

I didn't read the whole interview (just that excerpt quoted on WP) so you definitely have a point--as an actor myself, yes, I know it is not the job of the actor to see the whole picture but rather to identify with his/her character and find a way to justify that. HELLO GH DIRECTOR AND WRITER(S) FEEL FREE TO WEIGH IN HERE ON THE LARGER PICTURE OF HOW RAPE IS NOT JUST A PLOT DEVICE TO SHOW US MANPAIN.

That whole fucking WP article needs to be rewritten, it reads as though it were written 30 years ago. I'm sure Genie Francis must have done some interviews over That Incident, she should be quoted as well.

[(Anonymous)]

Luke didn't shoot any pregnant women.

[(Anonymous)]

No but he bit off a guy's ear lately.

[(Anonymous)]

right, because that's just as bad (not to mention that was a split personality)

[feotakahari]

Soap operas, ladies and gentlemen!