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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-19 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3181 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3181 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Fire Emblem: Fates.

AKA that game where you can marry your (adoptive) siblings (but still siblings) all around, but you only have one gay option for each sex and each is version exclusive unless you go the DLC third route and they're a known sadist and a stalker, fitting in with tropes this gay girl is tired of.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
DA. This is Fire Emblem. Incest has been a part of the series since forever. And not just adopted incest, actual brother/sister incest and subtext.

Either learn something about the series or stop being fucking salty.
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-09-20 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't that kind of missing the point?

The fact that FE is okay with something as questionable incest (even if it's nothing new) and yet this is the bone they offer queer fans? Yeah that's shitty.

(I'm not a gamer and I don't go here, but... what does it matter if 'incest has been a part of the series forever'? It still sucks.)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
This is Japan, though. They're not exactly known for being the most forward regarding queerness.
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-09-20 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, but that doesn't mean people are wrong to be upset about it. Queer fans exist in Japan too.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
FE's done better than this game, though. Maybe not explicit marriages, but I'd rather subtle and well done stuff than stalker clone characters and sadists being the only choices.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-09-20 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
"Incest has been a part of the series since forever. And not just adopted incest, actual brother/sister incest and subtext."

Is that statement meant to make people LESS hostile to Fire Emblem?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's hypocritical for fans of the series to be like "ew Fire Emblem Fates has incest dats groce" when it has been happening in the games since literally the 90s. It's fine to hate incest! That's cool! But it's absolutely all through the backbone of half those games. It's nothing new, and all the pearl-clutching about it all of a sudden just reads like people who got into the series with Awakening and don't know anything about the past games.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-09-20 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
That's the thing, I haven't seen pearl-clutching about incest on its own. It's always incest and some complaint two and some complaint three, and then people say "FE has always had incest!" and don't respond at all to complaints two and three.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Sibling/sibling is integral to exactly one game. Two if you count Thracia as an extension of Genealogy. And the siblings who actually do it in Genealogy don't even know they're related and are manipulated into it. Everything else people pull out is either tangential, optional, or exaggerated by fandom.
"FE runs on incest" is factual bullshit, and using what's there as handwaving to excuse the little sister fetish going on in this is ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It's pretty dumb to be hostile about a fictional story including fictional incest.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Incest is hardly new, everyone knows this, but the ramped up little sister complex is fucking creepy and new.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Games are not obliged to offer you a gay option.