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fandomsecrets2015-09-19 03:49 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2015-09-19 03:49 pm
[ SECRET POST #3181 ]
⌈ Secret Post #3181 ⌋
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(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 01:03 am (UTC)(link)Which I would totally be down with! Except the stuff with his dad is NEARLY a plot point. It was like they drove towards a plot point and then veered off, beeping as they drove over the horizon.
And the odd thing is, obviously the team theming is very, very silly, but it is brought up in canon! The Taiyou Sphinx are near a beach, I believe, and have a very silly tanning culture at the school, and I think the headteacher has a bunch of money and a fetish for Egyptology, or the coach does, which is supposed to be the reason for the completely ridiculous architecture, and the team name. And with the Seibu Wild Gunmen it's totally just the coach's thing, plus Shien is basically the only one who dresses the part apart from him, and he's probably mildly trying to disguise himself. It's not that ES21 needs to be logical, it's that when you pick it apart it usually is.
FWIW, haven't played Disgaea, do have a good friend who lives up a mountain and watches anime every night. He'd had no exposure to ES21 until recently (avoided longer series while he was getting through One Piece, I believe) and straight away spotted a resemblance to an earlier sports anime character - that one guy from History's Strongest Disciple, Kenichi? Problem is that show looks grody as hell in terms of how it treats its female characters, so I'm not super interested in finding out if there could have been an influence there. But he's a 'nasty' motivator who resembles a demon and kicks a bland main character into joining his athletic pursuit, and it does slightly predate ES21.
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That's the only way it makes thematic sense to me, Hiruma being so much a part of the universe that he's taken on those traits too - having just enough there to nominally justify their weirdness if you try get down to brass tacks about it but no further than that (like WHY was the head teacher an Egypt fetishist? why are all the students buying in? why would Harao go so far as to BUY A RACING CAMEL for $300,000?).
If Hiruma is one of Those Guys (whose drives to win mostly aren't explained either, they just exist) only his team failed and ditched, so he has to make a new one made of normal people who AREN'T normally Those Guys, and take them to the Christmas Bowl... that's actually more interesting, I think. Then all his hinted at backstory kind of makes sense, if it's there TO be hinted at but not shown, since Hiruma isn't one of the normal people and actually in the Operates-Under-Shounen-Rules group, only he's getting dragged into being humanized by Sena and the team who try to get to know him, which works, but only partially.
Now I'm getting even more weird unrelated headcanon. That kind of veered off randomly, sorry.
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(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 01:24 am (UTC)(link)I have an MA in postmodern lit. I LIVE for this stuff. A manga where stuff like that is slightly more blatant would be amazing to me. I already get a big kick out of how Musashi doesn't buy Hiruma's crap at all. His powers do not work here~
To me it's only conspicuous if a Devilbat's home life isn't shown. They operate under more Real World rules than characters with less screen time. I mean Harao we see like twice, right? And Banba's the character who ends up being more important. So he's less ridiculous.
It just bugs me that they seem to have had something in mind when his dad shows up to the match, especially when some of Hiruma's characterisation has been associated with fatherliness. It comes back to the idea that he EARNED something. When the other players start to get their family to the games, we always learn a little bit about those dynamics. There's so much the author and artist seem to have had in mind there! Did you ever notice that Kuroki's prolly mixed-race? And Monta's mum's young enough that the anime seems to find her scandalous, and cut her scene? Ishimaru's the eldest of five siblings! The Ha Brothers have names which imply their birth order corresponds to the order they shout HAH to things in! The creative team were having so much fun with details for the Devilbats. I can't think they didn't have SOMETHING in mind with Hiruma, and he's got precious little mystique left by the end of the story.
Anyway, for now, gotta go to bed. I don't live in your time zone. :P