[ SECRET POST #3183 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3183 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Ignoring the whole forced BruceNat angle, I think Natasha was alright in AoU. Not great/perfect, but she was alright. I have problems with Whedon and the movie, but Nat's individual characterization is low on the list compared to his multitude of fuck ups in the movie.

The problem is BruceNat was so clumsily written that it dragged her down. I get that the forced sterilization was about taking away her choice and Natasha's inability to have children is dealt with in a few of her comic storylines (Black Widow: The Name of the Rose is one of my favorites and explores a lot about who she is and what the red room did to her) but people who know nothing about her can easily misinterpret that scene as "I'm a monster because i can't have children."

No matter how you work around it, it was clumsily written since a good portion of the audience took it away as such. I knew it wasn't and maybe a good amount of others, but when the majority of the audience goes WTF (even non-feminists/men have told me that they found that scene insulting) then Whedon did something wrong.

I also believe a lot of the criticism lobbed at her are bitter Clintasha shippers since they got their collective panties in a bunch and Whedon rubbed their faces in it further by saying he was planning for it but changed his mind. They aren't mad that Natasha is "being defined by a man" (or wtfever bs they are saying), they're made that she's not with who they consider the RIGHT MAN. Meanwhile, BuckyNat and SteveNat shippers have been relatively quiet on the forefront of the whole OMG THEY'RE LETTING HER BE DEFINED BY BRUCE angle.

Have to disagree about Tony Stark's PSTD being handled well though. Tony recycles the same character path of try to fix fuck up-create bigger fuck up-cleans up big fuck up and promises to never do it again, lather, rinse, repeat.