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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-23 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3185 ]


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omfg Stonewall you guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-23 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Has anyone else read that one interview with Ronald Emmerich? Because omfg.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/director-roland-emmerich-discusses-stonewall-controversy#.ivAAjOkBe6

I know it's buzzfeed, but it's still his words.

The money shots:
-“I kind of found out, in the testing process, that actually, for straight people, [Danny] is a very easy in. Danny’s very straight-acting. He gets mistreated because of that. [Straight audiences] can feel for him.”
-“They learned something from Danny — that you can make it, that you can study, you can maybe have a more regular life,” Emmerich said. “I also don’t have the feeling at the end that they are so much on the streets anymore.”

All right, so basically, he has a straight-acting lead who gets mistreated for being straight because otherwise straight people totally couldn't empathize, and also, this straight-acting lead is a white guy who teaches the POC all about not living on the streets.

Not touching the trans part because I've heard conflicting things from people about the trans presence at Stonewall, but just those two things alone are like "...what." And he doesn't get why people are upset with him.

OOOoooooooh my fucking god.

SA

(Anonymous) 2015-09-23 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
*Acting straight, not being straight.

Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-23 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah it sounds amazingly bad, both as a movie and for those reasons

And, I mean, Emmerich for all his passion was probably never going to be the director to execute a project like this successfully

Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-23 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh I'm gay and I still want to see it.

Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-24 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
What really pisses me off about this is that they'd create a made-up character from scratch instead of using one of the real people who were actually there and who could make great and compelling protagonists.

Because fuck historical accuracy, amiright?
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Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-09-24 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
This right here is why I read The Mary Sue. It's so much fun to watch them lose their shit: http://www.themarysue.com/roland-emmerich-stonewall-ignorance/

Vanity Fair also earns an A plus: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/stonewall-review-roland-emmerich

P.S. 7% on Rotten Tomatoes. 7%! http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/stonewall_2015/
Edited 2015-09-24 00:23 (UTC)

Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-24 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Damn. Those first two links are scathing.

And rightly so. The whole situation does sound pretty shitty, which is a shame, 'cause I'd be all for seeing a really good story about Stonewall. And I'd love to hear the personal stories of some of the more notable people who were there.
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Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-09-24 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm lacking in some serious context here but going by those reviews, wow.
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Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-24 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
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I can't muster up anything more eloquent than that. Just... EW.

Re: omfg Stonewall you guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-24 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
OH.

OH...

You know I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but this is like... this is so bad. Respectability politics, classism/racism, just straight up ignoring history...