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fandomsecrets2015-09-24 06:55 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2015-09-24 06:55 pm
[ SECRET POST #3186 ]
⌈ Secret Post #3186 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[Steven Universe]
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[Kushiel's Legacy and Harry Potter]
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[Gravity Falls]
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[Lacuna Coil]
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06. [huge]
[Youtube Sam and Nia]
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07. [huge]
[Austin Mahone]
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[Eddie Izzard]
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[Worm]
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10. http://i.imgur.com/IOyJzu9.jpg
[Kristen Bell, House of Lies, OP warned for nudity]
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11. http://i.imgur.com/zanEaAh.jpg
[The Great Mouse Detective, linked for porn (illustrated, furry)]
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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Go deeper. Where does consciousness come from? Your consciousness is not a unique phenomenon. Whatever makes you conscious, whatever makes you you, is made of something out there in the universe: whether electrical fields of living matter, "soulstuff," mass itself, I don't know.
The mass, the energy, the spirit if there is such a thing, that comprises you, from which you come, doesn't disappear when you die. Whatever made you conscious is still out there. After you die, it can make something like you, out of the same stuff you're made of, again.
So you, or rather everything that you come from, may well have to live with those consequences. You want to be a jerk to other people in this life? Society may say something about that, but hey, they're other people. But if you're reckless with the environment, your very mass and energy will still be here in the world you damaged. I think that changes things fundamentally from, "Once you die, that's it."
Even if you say that that's too abstract, that your specific, concrete brain, skin and bones will be buried six feet under in an airtight steel box; well, the embalmer will drain the fluids that fed them. Much of "you" will be back in the hydrologic cycle soon enough. And eventually, that steel box will crack. We are not separate from the larger phenomenon of the biosphere. We are part of it.
Reincarnation in the commonly understood sense of transmigration of souls doesn't have to exist for reincarnation in the looser philosophical sense to be very real.
We are part of a continuum.
So, yes, what you say is valid. At one level of wisdom. I just deny that it's the bottom level.
It is fine for a sea urchin to be mindlessly selfish, but we also don't give them the vote, and we probably wouldn't even if they could use it. To be human, however, is to be capable of deeper thinking and moral judgment. What is a human who scoffs at that? Well, human. Most of us aren't much at philosophy, good or bad. And society, in a sense, recovered from Qin Shi Huang, Tamerlane, Hitler, and so forth. If someone wants to be a selfish animal, he's free to do so, and that's nothing new. And society is free as well to scorn him and his desires for "freedom" or "dignity."
There's a lot of philosophy that tries to make humans out to be like other animals, because we're animals. But of course other animals don't enjoy "human rights," either.
I'm not sure this makes sense. I'm zoning out.
I thought I was going somewhere with this argument, and I ended up somewhere unexpected.
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(Anonymous) 2015-09-25 04:55 am (UTC)(link)You literally just said morality is relative, and now you're assuming I would believe or give credence to what you're saying. Since I don't, none of that actually matters and it would be pretty wise of me to ignore this. Or rather, that would be the wisest course of action for me to take, but most likely not for you.
Wisdom, if you ask me, means recognizing - like you just said that people can disagree on morality and what that means. Assuming your beliefs on what is good and what makes life meaningful would apply to everyone else that you're talking to - and that if other people don't get them then they simply aren't digging deep enough into themselves or are denying something that is apparently to you evident - smacks of the same kind of spirituality or religious bullcrap that has people going 'atheists know there's a god out there, they just deny him because they want the selfish pleasures of this world'. Not a good line of argument to make and extremely unconvincing.
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And if you're coming at things from a strong anti-religion standpoint, what I just posted must be nonsense.
The larger point is this: Goodness and morality aren't just made up things. There are reasons that certain practices are reinforced by society. Then again, sometimes they're the wrong reasons, and what is understood to be moral by custom is destructive in fact.
Wisdom isn't just one thing either; it's deeply layered because science is deeply layered. But at pretty much every level, wisdom and goodness are interacting principles, and I'm not convinced it isn't in both directions.