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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-26 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3188 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3188 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It kind of baffles me that having a message is seen as so terrible... when generally most of the classics and Great Literature and all the stuff we read about were written purely as propaganda? Grapes of Wrath is just an interesting romp about a journey, nothing anti-Great Depression in there! A Modest Proposal? What could that be about?

Scarlet Letter? A Christmas Carol? Wizard of Oz?

Heck, even most of the early Star Trek movies and episodes were intensely political and heavy-handed SJW propaganda for their time.

Star Trek IV is literally Nimoy ranting for two hours that if you don't ban whaling now then space-whales will blow up Earth in the future, and people love that movie.

You really can't avoid social commentary in writing, even just by showing what you see as normal and 'neutral' like how dozens of video games were all released the same year with almost the exact same idea of 'generic neutral protagonist' a rugged brown haired white dude.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-09-27 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll throw Count of Monte Cristo into the ring. How can you not get the subtext of aristocratic revenge stories where everyone is a fake?
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-09-28 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
No one has an issue about messages in fiction. It's all about how the author goes about it. Take the examples above, with His Dark Materials and Narnia. They had messages, but the full on hamfisted one in that last book for each? Turned people off.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-28 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
...most of the classics and Great Literature...were written purely as propaganda.

Citation needed.