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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-28 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3190 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3190 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Angry Birds (Movie)]


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[The Great British Bake Off (series 6)]


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[Jennifer Nettles, Ronnie Dunn]


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[Free!]


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[Hannibal]


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[Jennifer Lien, who played Kes in Star Trek: Voyager]


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[BBC Robin Hood]


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(Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie/The Mirror Empire by Kameron Hurley)












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[personal profile] fscom 2015-09-28 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
09. http://i.imgur.com/Q7DcHV9.jpg
(Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie/The Mirror Empire by Kameron Hurley)
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[personal profile] arkbound 2015-09-28 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read either of these books so I'm not too much help, but The Mirror Empire is high on my to-read books and I loved Kameron Hurley's other series.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-09-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not familiar with The Mirror Empire. What's the deal with the gender and gender relations that makes it interesting?
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2015-09-28 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what's snobby about it...I thought these were both pretty good books that did interesting things with gender.

I felt like Ancillary Justice was a more unique book, though, even if you take out the fender part (honestly I got annoyed that so much of the conversation about it related to the treatment of gender since I thought there was other more interesting stuff going on.
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[personal profile] a_potato 2015-09-29 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it makes you a snob; you just have a preference. There's nothing wrong with that. Besides, you've made me want to read 'The Mirror Empire!'

I do disagree about 'Ancillary Justice,' however. I found it very engaging, and thought there was much to recommend it beyond the exploration of gender -- the quiet, creeping terror that comes over Breq as she realizes both what's happened to the Lord of the Radch and what the Lord of the Radch has done to her; the slow development of affection between her and Seivarden; the anger and sorrow she feels over Awn; the circumstances surrounding the outbreak of civil war; the space opera-y feel of the final chapters. I also liked how clean and efficient the prose was, but I can understand how that style wouldn't be for everyone.

That said, I don't think you missed anything by skipping 'Ancillary Sword.' I thought it was a huge let-down.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-09-29 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I liked Justice, I bounced right off the grimmy grimey grimmy dark multiple perspectives of Mirror Empire. Neither was as beautiful or as much of a "message novel" as the Tiptree winner, Rupetta. Anyone who thinks Justice was edgy feminist science fiction has clearly not tackled Tepper, Butler, early Slonczewski, or Russ according to reviews.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-01 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
I agree a hundred percent. Cannot read Hurley, sorry. Ancillary series is not about gender. The whole point of the "pronoun thing" is that it is about aspects of identity that are not vender. Tepper et al got gender covered.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2015-09-29 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
I thought Ancillary Justice was better, both in terms of writing and from a literary standpoint, but I loved Mirror Empire, too. I'd discuss it with you!