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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-29 07:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #3191 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3191 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-30 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Helicopter parents.

Well, I mean, they've been raised to see no shame in a lot of the things us older fans were raised to be embarrassed about, like diverse sexuality, alternative religion, and being fannish. Since almost everyone is online now, you have as many people you see everyday in RL to talk to online as you do strangers. When us older people were teenagers, most of the people we met online were total strangers.

But they're also used to the idea that the government is spying on them, their school is spying on them, if they have a job, their job is spying on them,their parents are constantly hovering, they grew up overscheduled and driven everywhere and they don't make friends with people whose parents their mom doesn't know. They didn't go the park by themselves, they didn't go to the mall alone...

The other day, I went to an event, and there was a playground nearbye. While the kids were playing, the adults were standing around...watching them. Not sitting and reading a book five hundred feet away, standing right there by the equipment, not letting those kids out of their sight for one second. Even playtime in the fresh air is a deadly serious task during which you are not free from your parents.

So no wonder they have no street smarts.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-30 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of ironic, isn't it? And yet, it makes perfect sense, too-it's basic human behavior at work. The more intrusive/restrictive parents are about their kids' behavior and activities, the more likely their kids will be to want to "rebel" somehow.

And you make a good point, too, that the people you talk to online are people you see in real life, too, and that factoring into the overshare thing. Hell, we've all seen the scenario of teens texting each other while they're sitting right next to each other. I think that also speaks to how much more comfortable people are opening up online instead of face to face for various reasons nowadays.

But yeah, I completely agree that sometimes kids do need some opportunity to be alone and learn their way around without all those protective setups in place. Your thing about the parents is...wow. I remember my parents occasionally looking out the window if my sister and I were playing outside, and if we were at the park they were close enough to keep an eye on us...but they sure as hell didn't hover. And I could walk to a friend's place without constant parental supervision.

The media certainly doesn't help ease the helicopter parent phenomenon, either. Obviously there are scary people and situations out there to keep abreast of, sure, but the media nowadays makes it seem like everywhere you turn, danger is lurking around the next corner!

(And then, of course, we're so distracted by THOSE unlikely dangers that we don't pay close enough attention to the legit, realistic ones.)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-30 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
"But they're also used to the idea that the government is spying on them, their school is spying on them, if they have a job, their job is spying on them,their parents are constantly hovering, they grew up overscheduled and driven everywhere and they don't make friends with people whose parents their mom doesn't know. They didn't go the park by themselves, they didn't go to the mall alone..."

I don't know that I agree with that. On another forum where I am at, someone threw a fit because their father wanted to be able to check the teen's cellphone to make sure that nothing untoward was happening. (And considering how much trouble kids can get into with sexting, I don't know that it is that bad of a concept.) And pretty much everyone supported that person and said not only that it wasn't okay for the father to be able to check the teen's phone, but that he was abusive for doing so. They all seemed to be teens or young adults talking, so I wouldn't say they are so used to everyone spying on them that they don't care about it.

I don't know that I entirely give you the playground thing either. I am one of those people who hovers by the playground (I'm petrified of heights, so I really can't hang back when they're on the high equipment) but there are so many kids whose parents don't watch them at all and who are climbing all over the tops of slides and mowing down younger children and the like.