[ SECRET POST #3193 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3193 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Da Vinci's Demons]


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03. tb - please check sizes when using tinypic
[Harry Potter, general]


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04.
[Raffles by E.W. Hornung]


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05.
[Avengers: Age of Ultron]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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07.
[Wreck It Ralph]


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08.
[Steven Universe]


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09.
[David Bowie]












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Comments

[iceyred]

There's having fun with something, and then there's trying to find deep, meaningful life lessons in, IDK, Jem or Thundercats. There's discussing something, and then there's people who getting butthurt and using tumblr-lingo when their revelations about the lacking feminism in The Little Mermaid.

[elialshadowpine]

I can't believe I'm actually going to defend this. Sometimes meaning can be found in something as simple as a single piece of dialogue or narration. For instance, Angel isn't considered usually to be a deep meaningful show, but there's a line from one of the characters, "Serve no master but your ambition," that really clicked with me and meant a lot -- because it made me realize that what I'd been doing was denying my own ambitions and career goals in order to fit in with what other people wanted me to do and please them. One. Single. Line, and it made a HUGE difference in my outlook.

Now, if someone's going on about how ~deep and ~meaningful the ENTIRE show is, that's another thing, but I don't think it's impossible for people to find meaning in parts of it. If people find personal meaning that helps them in a place that others might find ridiculous, well, good for them. How they behave about it is an entirely different matter.

[(Anonymous)]

See, now I would argue that there's tons available to discuss with The Little Mermaid, like how it's essentially the exact same story as Aladdin, but no one talks about how the meaning of Aladdin is needing to leave your old life behind and change everything about yourself to land a spouse and that's a terrible message.

Teen is unhappy with life and encounters someone of the opposite sex and wants to get with that, villain steps in, there's a magic pact that gets them into the palace (Prince Ali, turning human), romantic montage (Kiss the Girl/Magic Carpet Ride) sudden reveal (She's a mermaid! He's a street rat!) and then teen is willing to give up the love of their life and as a reward the father figure steps in and changes the rules so they can get what they really want.

And people react so very differently to both stories, and interpret them differently and I think that's interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who never watched the Disney version of the little mermaid and only read the H. C. Andersen version, I went wut?
Doesn't she jump into the sea to become mindless foam at the end of the story (and end up ascending to be a spirit due to her good deeds), when she can't make herself kill the prince as he is lying there with his new bride, the other woman whom he thinks saved him?

[(Anonymous)]

Yup, that's the fairy tale's ending. But this is Disney. No dying in the end unless you're a villain. :p

(They did the same with "Hunchback of Notre Dame".)

[(Anonymous)]

That's one of the cool things about fairy tales and stories, they get retold and details changed to fit the time and the teller and you can learn a lot studying the changes.

Like most of the stories the Brothers Grimm collected had evil mothers, not evil step mothers, but they changed it for better appeal. They also tended to be gender fluid, with the protagonist being the gender of the child they were told to and any others switched appropriately to fit. The Brothers tended to chose male protagonist for publication

Basically, the very nature of fairy tales is that they're perfect for studying creative changes that happen over time and what sticks and what's dropped. Like the lotus-feet tiny shoes importance staying with Cinderella long after she left Chinese tellings instead of being commonly replaced with something like a corset or gloves or anything else.