[ SECRET POST #3193 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3193 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Da Vinci's Demons]


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03. tb - please check sizes when using tinypic
[Harry Potter, general]


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04.
[Raffles by E.W. Hornung]


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05.
[Avengers: Age of Ultron]


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06.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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07.
[Wreck It Ralph]


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08.
[Steven Universe]


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09.
[David Bowie]












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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

See, to me the "They're just felt!" was showing why they didn't take slapstick violence as seriously. The medium insisted that these were characters who couldn't feel pain, and so it's hard to go "But if they were real and they could feel pain... that would be bad."

In an interview about doing Moulin Rouge I remember someone saying that it was so much easier to do musicals with cartoon characters because there was already a built in suspension of disbelief. Of course everyone can randomly burst into song and choreography, it's a cartoon. So they tried hard to add in some over the top elements in the movie to generate the same sort of unreality where characters bursting into song wasn't so out of place.

So freaking out over Piggy karate-chopping people in a world where the characters can't be hurt is a bit like freaking out over how scared the people in Beauty in the Beast must be when all of a sudden someone starts singing and then everyone's singing along and you're singing too and how terrifying would that be?

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, this. The Muppets were pretty much cartoonish in nature. We see them regularly take abuse with no real or lasting harm (Beaker and Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, anyone?) which is exactly why people don't get upset when something that would ordinarily be considered bad happens to a muppet. It's kind of like suspension of disbelief. If a bear appeared without warning onstage at a comedy club, people would freak the hell out because HOLY SHIT IT'S A BEAR.

But when it's Fozzie, we understand the rules are different, and therefore the standards and expectations of behavior are different as well.

[(Anonymous)]

And a big part of it (and what can be played around with) is how the characters react in universe. in LOTR Sauron doesn't do that much, but you have badass characters being terrified of him so he comes across as a menacing bad guy.

If Fozzie did appear and people were going "eek a bear!" in the show, it would be playing around with that because we expect the muppets to be treated as cartoon characters, not real animals.

And another example of the rules are different I forgot to list, The Grinch. One of the things that sucked about the live action was a cartoon Grinch being cruel to a cartoon dog was funny and non-threatening. A man in a mascot suit being cruel to a real dog was just sad and depressing.