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⌈ Secret Post #3195 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Rule one about Homeschooling Club: Always get super defensive about Homeschooling Club!

[kitelovesyou]

Well, to be fair, whenever homeschooling is brought up, it tends to be of the "homeschooling is batshit and patently inadequate" variety. Which isn't to say it isn't sometimes.

[(Anonymous)]

It depends on the parent, the child, and the reason. It seems like there is a sizeable group (or perhaps they just scream the loudest) who do it to protect their child from outside ideas. That's the group that usually has people eye rolling.

I have two issues with homeschooling, but also no children, so take from this what you will. One: the longer you're removed from society, the bigger of a culture shock it is when you join it. Two: the child is less likely to be exposed to things they have an aptitude for/enjoy, unless it's also one of the parent's skills/hobbies. Obviously any of this can be overcome if the parent is dedicated to doing so, but I would think it would be more difficult to do so one on one than in a class setting where field trips and guest speakers are fairly common.

[(Anonymous)]

Your first argument is in fact an argument against schools which are, thank fuck, nothing like 'society'. And the homeschooled now adults I know [I didn't homeschool mine for various reasons, so don't jump to conclusions on that score] both have many interests completely different from those of their parents.

[(Anonymous)]

? You don't think society is anything like school? I find that hard to believe, but perhaps that has to do with the school.

School has things like: authority figures you like/trust, authority figures you don't like/trust, specific and scheduled time blocks with required duties, acquaintances who become friends, acquaintances who become enemies, large gatherings that are voluntary, large gatherings that are involuntary, people with differing opinions, required work to be done on a non-negotiable schedule, and make-work. Those are all things that people run into in the real world, and they're things that people get used to through exposure.

Also, as far as the activities go? In PE alone we were exposed to over ten different sports just between 13 and 16. We had X blocks, Y blocks, and many different electives as options as well. I went from a class that taught me to build snow shelters and shoot a gun to a class that taught me flash animation, photoshop, and website building. We had three different secondary language options. We had debate, drama, band, and a hiking club. And all of this was just my junior secondary with 300 people. That's not even mentioning the ideas, media, clubs, and activities that you hear about due to classmates talking. Yes, when people grow up they will have hobbies their parents didn't have. It's not impossible. It's highly probable, actually. However, I still don't think homeschooled children would be exposed to as much diversity as a school can offer.

I specifically said my two objections can be negated with forethought. These certainly aren't hard and fast declarations. These are my opinions based on multiple friends and acquaintances who were homeschooled for a variety of years for a variety of reasons. Plus, all of this changes based on things like location, school system, and era. Making any sort of declarative absolute on a subjective topic like this would almost have to be false.

[elialshadowpine]

I actually got fairly lucky educationally as a homeschooler (socially, however, was a fail; thank gods for the internet). Both of my parents are well-educated, and I learned a LOT more in most areas than in most public schools. Not to say there weren't failings. I missed out on chemistry, and mostly know biochem because of a basis in biology from Mom and then becoming disabled, and Dad tried reading physics from the book... which did not go anywhere, because if I didn't get something off the bat, he'd lose it. Enter Bill Nye the Science Guy, which... just on that alone, I passed standard testing at college level. o.O

The other area was math, and that was a complicated situation that I really can't blame my parents too much for, outside of a couple "joking" comments that really stung (which is not related to homeschooling; my Mom has black humor and sometimes tripped over things without realizing). Nobody realized I had dyscalculia, and I doubt a public school would have picked up on it at that point in time. I also had difficulty with abstracts, which would have been a problem in public school as well; algebra did NOT make sense to me because as far as I could tell, there was no practical application, and I NEED practical, real-world applications or consequences. I've been told I'm using algebra without realizing it, but there was nothing to connect the abstract and real world -- and that was true of public school.

Now, there's also the fact that my Dad is abusive, but I'm not sure public school would have made any difference there, really. It would have been trading one set of problems for another. At least I got into college via my state's Running Start program at 16 and was able to realize, while not on my parents' dime, that I actually didn't want to major in what I thought I did, and I had some great experiences there.

Education-wise, it worked out pretty well, especially since I was way ahead of my grade level. My dad went through a fundie phase, but even then, he thought stuff like Creationism was complete bunk. I can say I got a far, far more thorough schooling in history and world religion (past and present) than almost anyone I know, and that's something important to me. And English grammar? Daaamn. I KNOW for a fact I got more education there because Mom was teaching me from her old college texts (which I still recommend to people because they are easy as hell to follow).

But too many use homeschooling to isolate (which happened, but that was one part Mom working ridic overtime, Dad not wanting to take us to see friends, and friends being busy with extracurricular activities and school friends -- even if Dad had been willing, I'm not sure my friends would have found the time) and to brainwash. My folks wanted us to have a solid education at the pace that we could take it rather than being bored as fuck like both of them were in class growing up.

/homeschooling story

[kitelovesyou]

Thanks for sharing that! I always wonder about the social aspect and great that you had net access. For everything else... I think it takes pretty dedicated parents to impart their skills and knowledge and most parents are just not qualified to be good teachers! I know I'd suck at it even though school is potentially a snakepit.