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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-04 04:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #3196 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3196 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hannibal]


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03. [repeat, Black Mirror]


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[World of Warcraft, Mists of Pandaria]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Silicon Valley]


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[Time Masters: Vanishing Point and Aladdin]


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[Floraverse]


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kitelovesyou: butterfly scales (Default)

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-04 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah of course it is *snorts* I guess what is defined as "morbid" differs in all the battles about fat and health.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

(Anonymous) 2015-10-05 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't defining anything, I was going by the official definition of >40 BMI, which puts 300 lbs as morbidly obese for anyone that isn't 6'1" or taller.

Please be aware that "morbid obesity" is a set medical phrase. "Morbid obesity" is a medical term that means "over 40 BMI." You may argue how risky or not it is, but that is the actual medical term.

Not all people know this and think it's a personal judgement about health and risk, which it is not.
kitelovesyou: butterfly scales (Default)

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-05 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I inferred that was an official medical phrase, what people with a stake in this define as "dangerously" fat differs in all the battles about fat and health.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

(Anonymous) 2015-10-05 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Then this is a good example of the "HAES is anti-science" argument, where things that have been long stated to be unhealthy by doctors which is generally accepted by the medical community are now up for debate and "depends on your definition"
kitelovesyou: butterfly scales (Default)

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-05 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
No, it depends on which scientific studies have been used by the medical profession peak bodies, which tend to be notoriously alarmist and conservative to fit social policies. Fat is associated with poor lifestyles leading to high morbidity/mortality, and correlation and causation get strictly conflated by policies.

I mean, if most scientific studies, well conducted, without bias find 300lbs, when taking lifestyle factors into account, to significantly increase morbidity, then I'm all for those findings. However, there's a lot of studies that don't find a higher weight to increase this (in fact some studies find a protective effect) EXCEPT for diabetes type II. (Since I'm at very high risk of that post-pregnancy, I'm very glad I lost weight.)

I went into the science of all this a few years ago, so no I don't have citations to hand, and I still have an open mind about it. I also have two science-related degrees so I'm hardly anti-science. I am, however, fully cognisant of how science can be misused to fit a social agenda, whatever that agenda is.
Edited 2015-10-05 01:38 (UTC)