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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-10 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #401 ]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 384 secrets from Secret Submission Post #058.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 ] broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 5 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] too big, [ 1 2 3 ] repeat.
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[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-02-10 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
3. Ugh. I hear you. I haven't even watched Series 2 yet, but I agree. It was cute implied. Acknowledged...it does nothing for me.


11. Word! I really like Rose (though I think the Doctor has fallen in love with plenty of his previous companions as well). And I think one of the reasons I'm not as big a fan of Martha is just that Martha's...a little too perfect looking. She's gorgeous. Her hair always looks nice, her make-up is just right, she's got this great, slender figure, and dresses nicely. And don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm jealous. It's just that it's much much easier for me to relate to the averaged sized, jeans-and-sloppy-t-shirt, messy-hair, kind of awful make-up(not that I wear make-up) and all Rose.
Rose being an average (or even below average--lower middle class) girl kind of got me liking her as well.


15. I think you're supposed to pity him. That horrible life--that's what changed him from the fun, friendly con-man he was before into the creepy, bitter, dark-past-type guy he is now.


27. Read the Rhapsody books by Elizabeth Haydon. They will prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that there is such a thing as a Canon-Sue. I know I sound bitter, but really...I'd list the character attributes, but that alone does not make one a Sue. It's the writing around her and the way every character (and elemental power, etc) reacts to her, and the way she reacts to them. She's a Sue. A horrible, horrible Sue.
I only keep reading for Achmed.

But yeah, I agree about most anime heroines. They're not Sues. They're spunky, talented, flawed, and usually pretty freaking cool. Rhapsody...isn't.


32. I hear you. I hear you so much.


34. I kind of have to agree with you, much as I hate to say it. I hated the kind of kitch "Everybody's a lesbian!" thing at the end that made no sense. But mostly, I just went along for the ride, because face it, Katchoo and Francine bounced back and forth more times than a paddleball. I just liked reading it.


57. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see why weight should be an issue in fandom. There's a stereotype, I guess, but there's a lot of stereotypes. Screw 'em. If they're judging you for something so ridiculous, they're not even worth thinking about.

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-02-10 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I read Rhapsody. I read the whole stupid trilogy, and I did it for Achmed and... I seem to remember having another side character or two who I liked. But oh my gooooood. There has never been a Sue who could out Sue her--and I include Anita Blake in that.

It's worth noting that part of her being a Sue also comes from the fact that she seems to be the one and only good, strong woman in the entire universe. The others are all victims, evil... or possibly both.

But. Yes. Word.
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[personal profile] xenoglossy 2008-02-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, Rhapsody. I thought I was the only one who suffered through those books! And yes, if there ever was a character who could be called a canon-Sue, it's her.