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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-08 06:31 pm

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Re: Toxic Masculinity

(Anonymous) 2015-10-08 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
well, it's a complicated question, because it implicitly involves talking about what counts as an expression of masculinity and what doesn't, and that's really hard. i'm not even sure there is such a thing as an essence of masculinity to start with. but with that said, i think it's probably useful to try to break it down into smaller questions.

first of all: is there any form of existence for males that is non-toxic? i think the answer to this question has to be yes, at least insofar as there's any non-toxic existence for human beings. unless you think that all men are literally evil, there just has to be. men are beings with reason and empathy, capable of kindness, etc. they're just as able to live in a non-toxic way as anyone. if you disagree with that, i'm not even sure what to say to you tbh.

so then the further question becomes this: is there any way of existing that is characteristically 'masculine' that is non-toxic? and that's a difficult question especially because as above the question of what counts as masculine is deeply unsettled. but i think if you consider a list of attributes commonly associated with masculinity, there are certainly things on that list that are virtues, and so i suspect that if there is maleness there is a version of it that is non-toxic. that you can construct out of those positive attributes.

but again, i'm not very certain about this. it's a difficult topic with a lot of thorny little subdivisions.