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[ SECRET POST #3201 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3201 ⌋

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[Scream TV series]

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[Erasure/Andy Bell]

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[AmazingPhil and Danisnotonfire]

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05. [SPOILERS for Man from UNCLE]

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06. [WARNING for rape, war]

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07. [WARNING for rape]

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I know that the definitions of "murder" vary from state to state and from person to person. But generally, it seems to be regarded as this: "Murder is the killing of another person without justification or valid excuse, and it is especially the unlawful killing of another person with malice aforethought."

If someone kills a person who molested their child, it may be considered "justifiable homicide" if it was in the "heat of the moment". It definitely depends on the circumstances.

That's only first degree murder

Second degree murder doesn't require malicious aforethought.

For example, "a bar fight that results in death would ordinarily constitute second-degree murder."

I think a lot of people can more easily imagine themselves getting into a bar fight that leads to a death than raping someone.

Part of it has to do with how easy it can be to kill someone -- one particularly bad swing and they're dead.

Whereas with rape, it takes a concentrated, sustained, and determined mental effort to hurt someone so badly.

Even first degree murder -- I think people can much more readily understand someone who plans out and kills someone who had abused them. There's an element there that people can understand - the abusee wants to make sure their abuser can never hurt them again. But I think the idea of raping someone is utterly foreign to most.

You're portraying murder as something which has many different variations, which is true. But rape isn't just someone dragging a stranger into a dark alley - it can be a great deal more complicated.

I have a serious partner or maybe a spouse. We go to have sex. In the middle of it, they ask me to stop for some reason. I don't, maybe only for a minute, maybe for several. That's still rape. It should be considered rape. But it does not require a concentrated, sustained, and determined mental effort.

I am drunk. There is someone else who is drunk. They are passed out. My decisions are impaired and for some reason I believe they want to have sex with me. That is rape. But in this situation, I'm not trying to hurt them. Maybe I think they love me, they want to have sex. It does not require a concentrated, sustained, and determined mental effort.

There are many things that are rape and sexual assault, and not all of them require planning, effort, or intent to harm. I'm not saying it isn't rape or that these people shouldn't deal with the consequences. But I think it's important to make this distinction because rapists aren't all evil-laughing people who just want to hurt others all the time.

I agree with this post. There are different contexts for sexual assault, and while it's important to recognise sexual assault as such in those contexts, it is not reasonable to equate all sexual assaults as the same crime anymore than all homicides.

That's the thing isn't it? Rape is usually perpetuated by people close to the victim, not by a stranger in a dark alley. It's still rape however, and it's still wrong.

i bet to differ about the stranger thing. even heard about random stalking. never read about serial rapists? is 'random' but not to the rapists...

DA Come-by-lately anon, your English is still a work in progress, but I can never make out what your point is either

hahaha, you're drunk and need your sleep.

It's not even beer-o-clock where I am? But thanks!

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