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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-10 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #3202 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3202 ⌋

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Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
What if the consent is conditional and you find yourself unable to meet those conditions after the fact through no fault of your own? I'm thinking of sleeping with a prostitute and then finding you don't have enough money after the deed has been done. Her consent was conditional on being paid by you, you are unable to pay, consent is then withdrawn and you've raped?

Or other conditional consent (I know somone people here don't thing raping a prostitute counts as rape unless force is used) Say you're in a relationship, and the consent is dependant on the continued relationship, but you are for whatever reason unable or unwilling to continue that relationship. Consent has been withdrawn and it becomes rape.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that model of conditional consent really works and I would tend to think that, although you can obviously withdraw your consent at any moment, I'm very hesitant about the idea of withdrawing it retroactively (assuming informed rational consent etc).
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Re: TW: Rape

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-10-10 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, decpetion (as used in the very problematic example above) is one thing, but if there was mutual consent at the time, there was mutual consent.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
So you believe that consent can't be withdrawn after the fact if new information comes to light? How very convenient for a cheater like you.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Consent can be considered to be retroactively withdrawn if one party actively lied to the other in order to initiate sex.

Consent cannot be retroactively withdrawn in the event of genuine miscommunication, or an honest answer that turns out to be incorrect. It absolutely cannot be retroactively withdrawn in the event that circumstances that would have influenced the granting of consent change after sex has taken place.