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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-10 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #3202 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3202 ⌋

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Re: Porn fanworks of certain characters that should not exist

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT used the words "finger-blasted by her grandaddy" and you go straight to "Don't slutshame"?

If you don't think getting finger-blasted by your grandaddy is lessening I don't think I want to attend any family event with you.

Re: Porn fanworks of certain characters that should not exist

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
If the point made was don't make porn where Susan gets finger blasted by her grandaddy, I would agree with that. But OP's position was don't make porn of Susan at all.

not the OP, but a devil's advocate

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between 'sex' and 'porn'. Sex happens in character, in universe, and is respectful. Porn is OOC, exploitative, and made for the viewer regardless of the IC implications and IS lessening. There's a difference between a well-rendered sex scene with partners that make sense and what the majority of Rule 34 is.

nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Even if all that were true, who cares? Unless you're just anti-porn period -- and porn of fictional, of-age characters is as non-exploitative as it gets -- any distinction made between characters who do and do not 'deserve' to be featured in porn is purely arbitrary and a matter of personal preference. And when it's personal preference, the most you can do is refuse to participate.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd wager most fans are against porn as I have defined it- sex where the universe is thrown out and the characters are exploited for only viewer satisfaction. It's why fanservice is a dirty word. The issue of this thread is the conflation of sex and porn. A well written sex scene can be tailored for viewer satisfaction without becoming porn- that's a win for everyone. At the point you make porn as described by the definition above, you are by nature insulting the subject.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
With the proliferation of kink memes and id-oriented tropes like ABO, I would gladly see that wager. We are talking about fan-fans here? People who participate in fandom as we know it?

What I think is more likely the case is that most people have characters they would rather not see pornography of, as do I, as do you, and they probably even have reasons for it if you care to ask. But the OP wants to make a normative argument out of these arbitrary preferences.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, I'm a diehard fan and do you know what I really love? Hot, graphic-as-fuck porn in which my OTP go at it like they're in heat (sometimes because they actually ARE in heat).

I also love well characterized, well plotted fics.

Sometimes I get to have BOTH those things in one fic. When that happens I am a very, very happy fangirl.