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And if the pairing I like is gay or bi, it'd be especially cool to see them become canon and be accepted by the viewers.

I do think I get a special kick from same-sex pairings becoming canon because it's less common. I was shocked when Person of Interest went there with Shaw and Root; sure, there was plenty of hinting, but I didn't think it would ever actually happen in canon. A less shocking example was Agron/Nasir in Spartacus; Spartacus had already included gay and lesbian characters/pairings and I could see the spark of interest and the attraction between the characters, but a part of me was still a bit worried it wouldn't be made explicit. (Though I was sitting there telling myself, "Nah, NAH, THAT IS THIRST!") It's nice to see canon open to same-sex pairings.

I don't automatically expect any of my favorite pairings to become canon, and won't get upset if they don't.

I've shipped so many non-canon pairings... SO many. I don't either; I'm used to them being only subtext.

it's often because I see how shows tend to treat couples who get together-they can never just be happy and in love, they've got to break up or go through some other ridiculous drama or whatever.

You have an excellent point there. Couples can't stay happy, something always has to pop up and cause drama; happy couples are considered 'boring'. That irritates me as well, even though in some cases it can work for the characters and story, it often just feels like a shallow attempt to encourage angst.

I don't watch either show, but I always see Bones and Castle fans complaining about how their show has handled romance.

Many of them go through the same "will they/won't they?" that straight couples do, after all, so it's logical that part of their relationship will be explored in stories, and it can be handled with respect.

Exactly! And "Will they/won't they" can be rewarding. (There's a certain point for me where it stops being entertaining and starts being frustrating and anger inducing, but before that point it's beautiful.)

Re: POI spoilers

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Yeah, I know a lot of people were very pleasantly surprised and happy with the "Person of Interest" one :D! Not familiar with "Spartacus", but that's great that they didn't shy away from it, either, after all that buildup. I hope more shows can take that kind of initiative if the storyline looks to be going that way. I do think as time goes on, we will see that becoming more and more common :). I hope so.

I've shipped so many non-canon pairings... SO many. I don't either; I'm used to them being only subtext.

Same here :D. I think there's, like, two or three that became canon or were canon from the start (Niles and Daphne on "Frasier", Noblet and Geoffrey on "Strangers with Candy"-in a very twisted way, mind, but still, they were in a relationship). Otherwise, yeah, most of mine are still in "close friends" territory.

You have an excellent point there. Couples can't stay happy, something always has to pop up and cause drama; happy couples are considered 'boring'. That irritates me as well, even though in some cases it can work for the characters and story, it often just feels like a shallow attempt to encourage angst.

Exactly. Like you said, sometimes it can work-couples WILL have arguments and disagreements, that's a given. But like you said, so often it's just angst for angst's sake. Couples can still have drama and struggles once they're together, but that struggle can come from outside the relationship, too. The fun and spark and intrigue would come in watching how the couple works together and supports each other through whatever they're dealing with.

I've never seen "Castle" or "Bones" either, but I have heard through various discussions about what's going on with "Castle" lately-that was on my mind as I typed that about "keeping couples together", actually :p. I don't blame fans for being frustrated in those moments.

Exactly! And "Will they/won't they" can be rewarding. (There's a certain point for me where it stops being entertaining and starts being frustrating and anger inducing, but before that point it's beautiful.)

Agreed :). You are right about the entertainment only lasting so long, though-eventually that back and forth does have to be resolved somehow. Either the couple gets together, or they acknowledge their feelings/talk it out and agree to be friends/realize that they don't feel that way about the person anymore, and move on and find someone else.

It can be a tough dance to do, though, for sure, figuring out just how long the infatuation and crush can last. Especially depending on the character. Are they one who can move on easily, or are they someone who can carry that torch for years? If it's the latter, it can be tough to make that work in a way that doesn't make the person seem pathetic or WAY too hopeful or creepy or whatever.