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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-15 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3207 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3207 ⌋

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[personal profile] ketita 2015-10-16 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's 'rare' in the sense that overall, I consider the author to know their characters best. It's rare that I step away from a book with the feeling that there was an actual disconnect between who the character was and who the author was forcing them to be.

But yes, canon contradicting some random fanon, I have no sympathy for that. People make up such baseless fanon, and they seem to have huge difficulty reading the actual text.

I ran into something like that where an interpretation of mine of a certain event went wildly different from basically everybody else's, and I got dogpiled for it, but I do think that there are times when people aren't looking so much at the text but more at what they want to see.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-16 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
No, that's fair enough. It's usually someone complaining about "fanon" being violated, though.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-16 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more of an issue in TV and comics, where the writers may be replaced. And yet, I think I may actually hear more complaints about novelists changing characters in ways the readers don't like....
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-10-16 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
To me it's an issue of standards. If I'm watching a TV show and a character suddenly does a 180, I can make excuses for it - different writers, network insanity, who knows. And then I decide if I'm willing to swing with it or not, but my starting expectation is for a certain level of inconsistency.
But with books, it's one author, and one vision, and if things start going out of whack, it bothers me much more. It's not always even about not liking what's happening to the characters, as it is me believing that they could do it.

An example for me would be in the first book of Robin Hobb's new Assassin trilogy. Throughout much of the book I felt like she was fighting with Fitz, trying to make him act one way, when the character was trying to do something different. He seesawed between being mature and weirdly obtuse, and there were questions I felt he really should have asked that he just... didn't. There was something stiff about the writing and the author's interaction with the story/characters that just felt off to me, and it made me wonder if the author wasn't trying too hard to force her characters into a plot which was unnatural to them and their development.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-16 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I always get this with the 4th book in the Joust series by Mercedes Lackey. Things like they spend the first three books making a big deal on how you can't use bows and arrows from dragonback, then the fourth book opens with the main characters using bows and arrows from dragonback. And then the main conflict is that... even though for three books the main character is described as utterly selfless and the other characters point it out and tease him for it, somehow everyone has forgotten this and is convinced he's doing something selfish 'like always' and it's a bit "Bwuh?"