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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-15 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3207 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3207 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-16 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Recasting a man with another man (even a non-white one) is not the same thing as recasting him with a woman. You would have to change nearly everything about the character.
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[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-16 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Why though? Seriously.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-16 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
The question would be, what would stay the same? You really think that you replace Bond from any given movie with a female counterpart that the story and dynamics wouldn't be changed considerably?
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[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-16 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Not especially, no? James Bond, the spy with the tux and the gun, kicking arse and sleeping with beautiful ladies. It's all an idfic type fantasy anyway, realism doesn't take a big part in it. You want gritty up-close examination of gender politics and power dynamics, James Bond's 'verse isn't it. Handwave the realistic incidences of sexism away, as is currently done in the franchise. Besides, hypotheticals right?

I do know that a lot of people lack imagination when thinking of how women might take on a traditionally male role including sexually, probably because they think of the genders as inherently very different.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-16 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
So a scene where a villain tortures Bond in his underwear... you'd be okay with that happening to a woman?
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[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-16 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yes?
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[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-16 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Also, let me get this straight... audience sexism is your real objection here?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-16 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
That's a good point. I can't think of a way to do that that isn't sexualised. Now that I think about it, is the whack-a-ball scene from CR sexualised?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-17 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Of course it is. Daniel Craig is showing the kind of muscle definition that only comes when you dehydrate yourself in preparation for a scene where you're supposed to look sexy. His body is completely hairless, which is what's currently considered sexy on men by media culture, and which didn't happen by accident. He's shiny and polished to bring out the contours of his body more clearly. And he's being tortured, which an AWFUL lot of women have an enormous fetish for. I assumed all this was obvious?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-17 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Not obvious to me. Is that all intentional, though?