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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-18 04:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3210 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3210 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a fantastic book, and it was also the first Real Novel I read when I was a young tween and really enjoyed for its own sake and capital-g Got.

Just fantastically gripping and with such good human Dickensian characters as well.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Underestimating Victorians is very common though, so don't feel too bad about it. Be glad you know better now in stead.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
the stupid thing is, I'm actually something of a Victorian literature enthusiast, i.e. I have consumed quite a lot of it and am always ready to rush to defend it. Dickens still managed to catch me unawares with his levels of psychological brilliance.

Thank you <3 I'm definitely glad I know (even) better now!

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* I'm rereading Jane Eyre right now and Bronte's many deft little touches are blowing me away. The way she periodically drops into first person to immerse the reader in a particular scene or state of mind, for example. She's a gifted, deliberate writer and I can't believe how much I missed on earlier readings. (Even if she doesn't miss an opportunity to snark about the French ;-)

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It was Jane Eyre that first got me to reconsider things too. I went there with pretty firm ideas about what I was going to read and got some big surprises.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember when I read Jane Eyre for the first time. I got it for free and just took it with me so I had something to read on a trainride. And then I was really surprised by how good it was. Talking about underdestimated books.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-10-18 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Dickens was pretty amazing when he was writing from life. He portrayed battered person syndrome long before it was recognized as a thing, and when people questioned his accuracy, all he had to say was that he'd seen couples like that.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Never mind the fact he was a pretty big scumbag himself, especially with how he blamed his wife for everything and was a philandering asshole.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-10-18 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Deets? I'm weirdly invested in knowing what various writers I enjoy are like as people.

Simple cheating wouldn't get you in my "scumbag" books, I guess. Sure, it's bad and I'll judge you for it, but it's not the sort of thing that makes me turn away from a person in disgust.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-10-18 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Cracked published an article recently that mentioned him. He's the first one here on page two.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-10-18 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ehh, not the most reliable of sources, and the Napoleon story in the same article is NOT undisputed historical fact. I'll have to do some more research.

But if all of that is true, ew. Here goes a good chunk of my enjoyment of Dickens' stuff.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-10-18 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I wasn't assuming it was all true but they do usually provide some sources that you can follow if you want to look into it more.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-19 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Dickens is not my specialty area, but the bit about the children isn't true AFAIR.
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[personal profile] skeletal_history 2015-10-18 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The only Dickens I've read is "Our Mutual Friend," and I was surprised by how funny he is! At times, Dickens sounds like a proto-P.G. Wodehouse, mostly through the character of Eugene Wrayburn (now counted among my Great Literary Crushes), like with this line: "Eugene is also in attendance, with a pervading air upon him of having presupposed the ceremony to be a funeral, and of being disappointed."
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-10-18 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't gotten around to that one yet but I should. That is a great line.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Dickens. He's one of my favorite authors.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Tale of Two Cities is amazing, and I say that as a card-carrying Dickens disliker (hater might be too strong a word, but it's getting there - I've never enjoyed any of his other books).

It's one of the best books I've ever read.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-19 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't read this novel, or any Dickens' (never managed to read beyond the first pages of David Copperfield, kinda gave up), so I don't know about Dickens, but victorian fiction had lots of stuff that hadn't even been given a word for, yet. They mostly predate psychoanalysis but simply make up for knowledge of theory by very close observation and logical continuation of known phenomena of human behavior.
I also love the tendency of some of the novels from the era to question conventional morals in favor of a more individual approach.