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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-18 04:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3210 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3210 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I really hate this trend of bashing authors/creators and saying they don't understand their own work – like, they CREATED it? I see this in so many fandoms, not just with JK. What a mess.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-19 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, it's really not all that uncommon for creators to be utterly clueless about the implications of their work or how their work actually reads/how their audience is going to view it. SMeyer is a now-classic example of authors meaning to write one thing, and somehow managing to write the exact opposite, without ever realizing that they wrote the exact opposite of what they intended. The writing in HP is vastly superior to the writing in Twilight, but it still wasn't a perfect series, and JKR made her fair share of questionable decisions that ran counter to both fan desires/expectations and to her own world building.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-19 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Writers can say things that are factually wrong about their own work. An example I was recently reminded of was an interview with the writers of the anime Samurai Flamenco in which they said neither of the main characters underwent any development or change during the series. Anyone who's watched the show and paid the slightest bit of attention could tell that's just straight-out not true. If they think it wasn't especially good or well-written development, that's subjective. But saying "It didn't happen" isn't.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-19 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of feel like this got bad in the late '90s, with the X-Files. The fandom entitlement in that scene was BIZARRE. People were so, so angry at Chris Carter. Like, dude, if you don't like it, STOP WATCHING IT. But this is Chris Carter's baby, not yours. You don't call the shots, he does. I don't care how much shit fanfic you write, these are still his characters and his situations.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-19 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
That's funny, I think The X-Files is a great example of a time when this kind of Clueless Creator criticism is totally warranted. CC so often came off as incredibly obtuse about what actually made his show great. He seemed to be incapable of separating romantic love from gender roles, and he evidently had some real blockages when it came to understanding Scully's potential as a character. He was shit at character development, and double shit at continuity.

It's all fine and good to say, "If you don't like it, stop watching," but it's incredibly un-fun to watch something you love being driven into the ground until you're not sure you can love it anymore.


I bears saying that I would not level this kind of criticism at every creator. Joss Whedon, for example, is not a perfect creator, but he rarely seems oblivious to the human element in his stories the way CC did.