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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-20 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3212 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3212 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
it's regarded as frivolous and a waste of time

... which is exactly what everyone said to me about writing, all throughout school, as I tried to develop my skills.

To people like this (which is, honestly, a large percentage of people in general) writing, acting, painting ... it's all art and therefore all "useless." All forms of art require self-motivation to learn and improve, and anyone can learn and improve if they have that motivation. There isn't an inherent difference, and the way you keep arguing is what's making other posters think you're saying YOUR art is "better."

(Anonymous) 2015-10-22 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Except that I'm a writer. Do please point out where anyone said visual art was "better."

Also, I'm not sure what you're basing your argument on, but IME, in the US at least there are constant, widespread complaints that our public schools fail to teach students to write well, and they come from precisely those people who call for more "rigor" in the curriculum, invariably at the expense of spontaneous play and creativity.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-10-22 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
That's exactly it, though - they want people to be better at technical writing, like scientific writing or business reports. Which isn't a bad thing per se, but it's not the same as creative writing at all. About the only things they have in common is conventions and basic ideas of organization (and even the latter is often executed differently).

THAT is the kind of writing considered "essential", not creative writing.

And let's be real, even if you never said "drawing/painting is better", you're sure trying really hard to make it sound like you have to have more talent to make it as an artist and that art is more refined (not a hard word to define). And not everyone who has learned technical writing (which even then many people aren't good at, as you pointed out) has the talent to tell a story convincingly or engagingly. AND even those with the talent must practice to refine it.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-23 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I don't think I can find words little and short enough to explain this to you so that you'll get it. You go on telling yourself what you want to think.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-10-23 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You've resorted to petty insults and an obvious attempt to weasel out of an actual argument. I am so convinced! Good job, anon!