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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-25 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #3217 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3217 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
but no matter what in science you're going to reach a point beyond which you can't explain. Why do atoms exist? Why did the Big Bang happen? Why do large objects have gravity?
You can say that the reason that things exist is because God created them, but that has nothing at all to do with wanting to understand HOW the world works and what the extant laws are, and what we can do with them. It's just you who thinks there's no point to anything if there's a God, and that's probably more on you than anybody else.

Science is more about understanding how things work than why, imo.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
If we stopped trying to learn things every time we were sure we wouldn't be able to explain things past a certain point, we'd still be in the dark ages.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
You can call the totality of laws which rule the universe "God". It doesn't necessarily speak against trying to figure out more about the way things work.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
But this is not true. Science explains WHY things happen all the time. It's belief in God that keeps backtracking - God made the earth. Okay, no? Then God made the universe. Okay, no? Then.. God made the Big Bang. and so on, and so on.

I don't have any issue with people who do believe in God, but the questions you're proposing will likely have scientific answers in the future if they don't already. God does seem like a cop-out answer, which is what gods have always been - ways to explain the unexplainable.
It seems like you're proposing God as a philosophical answer to existence rather than a literal, but then a literal God just doesn't have a point. If people want spiritual comfort, by all means, turn to the gods or your supernatural being of choice. But making aggressive scientific claims about actions that this deity supposedly takes is another thing completely.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-10-26 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Belief in deities also has another function: to provide a context in which societal rules and laws can be written. Do this to please God; do that and you'll displease God.

God was a dream of good government.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"God was a dream of good government"

unfortunately for me, this is true.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. This particular approach is moving the goalposts. The idea of a young earth has been disproven by science and an understanding of the geological processes in which the earth was formed. So the next step is to say, ah, but what if thousands of years of geological development was how God made the earth? It's an interesting argument from a theological point of view, but it's not scientific. It can't be tested or proven, it's just tacking on a religious explanation into the coattails of science.