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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-25 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #3217 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry about your biology professor. He sounds a bit backwards from a modern creationists thinking as, well, most modern creationists will tell you the fossil record was created by the flood.

Sure, the Bible says God created the earth mature and fully formed, that doesn't mean he buried fossils in it. It means more that it was a complete creation and didn't go through growing phases.

Your DNA story reminds me of the story about how Darwin admitted that there had to be some sort of intelligent design to the universe after examining an eyeball. I don't know how true the story is though.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
β€œTo suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory.”

the tl;dr "Some might say the eye is too complex to evolve on its own and a God had to make it. But that's just because we're always learning new things and here's how to prove it was evolution by means of natural selection"

And people go "...the eye is too complex to evolve on its own and a God had to make it" SEE?!!?! HE BLEVED IN JEBUS AND NOT SCIENCE!!!!!
esteefee: Rodney McKay wearing a monk's hood (monk_rodney)

[personal profile] esteefee 2015-10-26 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The point of the story about my biology professor was that I paid money for an education, not for his personal religious ideas that had no basis in science fact. The prof exploited his position. I received a more religious education when the scientist stuck to the science.

That's a mis-paraphrase of Darwin's quote you got there. He posits the question, then goes on to answer: the human eye did evolve, and here's how it possibly happened. What he posited has since been supported by lots of research into the evolution of eyes and sensory structures.

Also, I have to say, the human eye would be a very poor design, since it has a blind spot where the optic nerve leaves the retina. A much better design would be the squid eyeball, where the nerve fibers route around the retina altogether. So did the Designer make a mistake and then fix it in the squid in their experimenting, or did humans get the poorer design after the first squid was designed? Why? Both sets of eyes evolved from a long-long-ago (500 million years ago) patch of sensory cells we shared with our cephalopod ancestor. How come we got the squishy end of the cuttlefish?

I'm going with evolution. With an option of awe for the unbounded complexity of the universe.