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Transcript by OP

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Image: A picture of the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. logo, a picture of the crew from the Star Trek Reboot movies, and a picture of three Napoleonic warships fighting each other.

Text: Every time I see someone in fandom use the shorthand AOS I feel momentarily excited, but ultimately am always disappointed.

Because instead of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. or Alternate Original Series...I've always associated it with Age of Sail.

I'll just go cry alone in my little Napoleonic War corner...

Re: Transcript by OP

[(Anonymous)]

Heh, same here!

[(Anonymous)]

I'd prefer Age of Sail over Agents of Shield too, OP. :)

[elaminator]

I wish people would just say SHIELD instead of AOS because for me it gets confusing too. (Having been in the Star Trek: AOS fandom.)

[(Anonymous)]

As someone involved in Age of Sail canons and writing novels based on the era... I so agree.

Every time I see "AOS," I perk up a little. Only for inevitable disappointment.

[(Anonymous)]

Naomi Novik, is this you?

[(Anonymous)]

I'll bunk here with you. Pass me my rum ration and a ship's biscuit and let the bosun pipe down. :)

[(Anonymous)]

What is this Age of Sail? Is it worth reading/getting into? And most importantly are there pirates involved?

And no, I don't want google, I want your opinions :]

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Basically, "Age of Sail" refers to the naval side of the Napoleonic Wars (1792-1815). Related fandoms include Master and Commander and (my favorite) the Horatio Hornblower miniseries.

The Hornblower series (books and episodes) are pretty good and worth checking out (though the last two episodes of the miniseries are the weakest of the lot), if for no other reason than the fact that the costumes are gorgeous, as are the men.

As for the pirates, there is one story briefly involving pirates in "Admiral Hornblower in the West Indies" (one of the later books), and my favorite book in the series (Hornblower and the Atropos) features Hornblower participating in a form of treasure hunting. Other than the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, though, I can't think of any other fandoms that specifically have pirates. Maybe others can recommend something to you, though!

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[solticisekf]

the most recent pirate tv shows are Crossbones and ongoing Black Sails, I guess?

[(Anonymous)]

It is the great sail ship's era. There is a great many sources, so you choose between very different focuses.

I like explorations best and man against nature stuff, besides mixing historical and modern sources: typically polar expeditions, Moby Dick, The Sea Wolf (London), The Terror (Simmons) (any tale of Franklin's lost expedition really, and I have to stop now because I get carried away.

Many read up on wars at sea, like OP. I have been there too. (Think Master and Commander, Hornblower...) Lots and lots of heroic deeds and tragic demises to choose from there. There's also the nice side dish of piracy...

And others again choose to look at the technology: ship building, logistics, sailing, conditions on board and so on. There's also the social side of things: class divisions, slave trade, etc.

So, one big barrel of funtimes for the historically inclined. Besides we can boast great fanart: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=327

Anchors aweigh!

[(Anonymous)]

Alas, the Age of Piracy was about 50-100 years before the Age of Sail, technically speaking. The height of piracy was the late 1600s to around 1720's or so. After the 1720s was when the various world navies started really cracking down and rubbing out the pirate havens of the West Indies and Madagascar. But the ships are the same and there's a lot of crossover/fudging of dates, and it's not like there weren't still pirates in the late 1700s...

I'm all about the Age of Piracy, anon, but I tend to steer clear of Robert Louis Stevenson in all his over-romanticizing pomposity. Actual historical fiction of pirates is hilariously over the top.

[(Anonymous)]

NA Most modern fiction about pirates is also hilariously over the top. :P

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Do you have any recs? Fiction/non-fiction? Your great recs and the most ridiculous thing you've ever read! I take them all!

If you're interested, The Pirates of Barbary by Adrian Tinniswood (non fiction)is a good read.

My heart warms at the knowledge that there are some people out there into Age of Piracy. :)

[(Anonymous)]

Do you have any recs on later pirates, anon? I'm looking at the Indian Ocean particularly.

/fingers crossed

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on who you ask. I've seen the case made for the Age Of Sail beginning around 1630, and a lot of people include some pirate fiction under the header because of that.

And then you get complete Fantasy Fiction like Pirates of the Caribbean, which has steering wheels and big, hunking 100 gun three deckers (owned by the EITC for some reason? Which is somehow super powerful and can command the navy to do things????) AND pirates at the same time. Well, and sea monsters of course.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks!

I used to frequent the PotC side of this, so it's neat to see that there are others into this era/relative era. Definitely into the historical and social aspect of it.

Thanks for the recs (and I have been watching Black Sails)!

[solticisekf]

Oops, misfired this. So... I thought the secret talked about AO3 at first.

Age of Sail is awesome. The whole period's quite interesting. There's PotC, Sharp and maybe Norrell and Strange beside Hornblower and M&C.

[(Anonymous)]

And a sweet Dutch movie from 2015 (that deserves more international attention) that's pretty great if you're into the AoS - and you can ignore the jingoism. Which you should be able to if you like Master and Commander and the likes. (It's titled Michiel de Ryuter or simply Admiral. There's a DVD with English subs out if you need more AoS in your life.)

[solticisekf]

Posters look awesome, thank you! It's something I think I'll love.

[(Anonymous)]

I hear you, OP. Every time I see LoK I perk up thinking it's Legacy of Kain. But no, it's always Korra or some other fandom. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, AoS, fandom (well, fandom cluster) I started out in, back in the heydays of M&C, Hornblower (I started with the series and then couldn't get into the books for a tragic lack of Archie), and Sharpe. I've drifted out of it a few years ago, but I still have a soft spot for anything with ships and (more or less) period uniforms, and AoS will always hold a special place in my heart.

[(Anonymous)]

The 1995 movie version of Persuasion touches on the Napoleonic wars a bit. And it has Ciaran Hinds in a Navy uniform, which is never a bad thing. It's one of the best Jane Austen adaptations, IMO.